looks like the first Kel-Tec RFB in 7.62x51/.308 has hit the market

[Greebe]

Haha... yeah I just really believe in 6.5mm cartridges. The future doesn't change unless people believe in something that could prove to be better.

You seem to be a masochist for unobtainable wildcat cartridges that no one uses, don't you?

Hey man, check with practical long range shooters out there, the .260 Rem is leaving the .308 in the dust, plus the .260 is a factory cartridge now. Its not just me that believes the .260 has an advantage. But yes I do like the wildcats and other often overlooked cartridges that are superb but don't get much attention in this country.

Later,
Greebe

 

[Wes Janson]

Hey man, check with practical long range shooters out there, the .260 Rem is leaving the .308 in the dust, plus the .260 is a factory cartridge now. Its not just me that believes the .260 has an advantage. But yes I do like the wildcats and other often overlooked cartridges that are superb but don't get much attention in this country.

True, it's an exaggeration to say that no one uses it, and it has its advantages..but it's still extremely scarce. Try finding ammo for it in a store, or finding local sources for components. I'm a firm believer in shooting things that are widely available, just in case. For a precision bolt action, the .260 Rem is definitely a better choice. For an advanced battle rifle, it doesn't make quite as much sense, IMO.

It's already been trickled out from Kel-Tec that their next project will likely be a 5.56 version of the RFB-the CFB.

 

[Maverick223]

I am starting to reconsider my decision to "go big or go home"...I think I may end up going with the 18" version...either way it seems that I will have plenty of time to consider which one is best for me.

 

[everallm]

Maverick

Kel-Tec have already stated that one of the modifications sets that have delayed the roll out was to make barrel changes practical for an experienced gunnie or most any gunsmith and they will be selling barrel kits once the pipeline finally starts flowing.

Buy 18" then get that 32" barrel waaaaaay later........

 

[Maverick223]

I think I will get either "way later"...I am starting to reconsider the longer bbl altogether, not just due to uavailability. I already have a .300WM long range bullpup...why do I need a .308 that is nearly as heavy, nowhere near its accuracy, and is unwieldy (making the advantages of a bullpup configuration a moot point). I am starting to think that the 18" or if I had my way a 20-22" version would be a better option.

Either way, I like a good bullpup configuration rifle, and will likely purchase a Kel-Tec at some point, but I will wait to see the initial reviews and the price drop. I am also considering a few other BP rifles...a second M17S in shorty config. (with a ~17" bbl), a P90, and perhaps the new pistol MSAR chambered in .45ACP or 9mm.

 

[Greebe]

Hey Wes--

I totally agree that the .260 would not make much sense in a battle rifle right now as ammo availability is low and that the 7.62 is a NATO round. I just wish that NATO would adopt a round that fits nicely between the 5.56 and the 7.62, like say a 6.5mm round.

NATO actually was going to adopt the .280 British but the US forced the .308 on them. The FAL was actually designed at one point for the .280B. I guess it was a great round for day in and out fighting.

Does anyone own the RFB? Has anyone shot them? I would be curious how the muzzle blast is with the .308 that close to your face. It seems like it might be fierce. That bullpup rifle would be a perfect candidate for an integral suppressor.

Greebe

 

[Maverick223]

I agree Greebe a suppressed version would be ideal, though unlikely. IIRC only a few dozen have been sold (likely to collectors) so a honest review (many will give a great review in an attempt to justify the exorbitant price that they paid) is unlikely until production is ramped up.