Luger need help to identify?

[huntscout]

This had a 3 1/8 " barrell
in excellent shape
with holster
2 clips one with original rounds-8 with no markings
9mm
wodd checkered grips
it has a crown marking with the letter N below it
serial # 1495
with 95 in several other places
GESICHERT IS MARKED IN THE UPPER POSITION FOR THE SAFETY
pics attached

can anyone help me to find out

what is actual model?
what is actual year?
what is approximate value?

 

[DagoRed]

There are some good Luger sights on the web, do a google search and you can find them, and using the info there you can identify your Luger.

 

[rcmodel]

+1

None of your camera phone? pictures are clear enough to see any identifying markings such as the crest on the toggle, etc..

Serial number is meaningless without knowing the maker from the crest or other markings.

GESICHERT simply means Safe, or On Safe in German, and is common to most Lugers.

All I can say for sure from the info & photo's is, yep!, you have a Luger.

rcmodel

 

[Jim Watson]

Fuzzy pictures indicate that it is a DWM (Deutsche Weapon und Munitionenfabriken) built P08 (standard German army model) with a good deal of straw color on the small parts and probably in pretty good finish otherwise. It was made before the Nazis changed the proof mark from a crown to an eagle in 1939.

Most have a date over the chamber. If it doesn't, that will take some study.

It OUGHT to have a small faint letter under the four digit serial number on the front of the frame below the barrel.

Gun has substantial dollar value.

 

[Jim K]

The crown/N indicates it is a commercial Luger, made before 1939, so it would not have the chamber date or military markings. The holster Luftwaffe insignia is almost certainly the work of an American GI, not the German who originally had the holster.

Jim

 

[huntscout]

Iam located in Michigan
my camera just will not take close pics
on the front of the gun below the barrell 1495 with the letter t
the bottom on the barrel has a crown shape then below that block letter N then 1495 a scroll letter L
95 is stamped in several places
the back of the grip will allow from a rifle stock
above the grip at rear is a rectangle ring
the saftey is marked GESICHERT in the top positon
DMW in scroll writing is on the top of the action

there is no markings on the right side of the gun at all
fixed rear site front site can adjust
left and right

story
My father stated that a German officer surrendered the gun and holster to him at the end of WWII. might be why the insigna is onthe holster.

 

[Jim Watson]

Jim K.

How about a 1920 commercial or 1921 police?
They had military "1234 a" type serial numbers (being based on leftover WW I guns and parts) and no chamber dates. Isn't it reasonable to think that one got into military service in WW II.

 

[huntscout]

any idea as to the value?