I just ordered my first M1 Garand from CMP, and am also interested in acquiring an original uncut M1 Bayonet to go with it. My searches aren't bringing up much for sale anywhere other than the bayonets that were cut-down to 10" and the newer bayonet versions for the Garand. Does anyone know of a source for good-priced original uncut M1 bayonets?
M1 Bayonet?
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Cortland
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Have you received the gun yet -- i.e., do you know when it was made? It doesn't make much sense to put an early WWII-era bayonet on a post-Korea gun (unless you just really wanted to spend the money). Here's some Garand bayonet info for the interested. Googling the models listed at the aforelinked page reveals plenty for sale, at various prices of course.
I laid out big money to put a bayonet on my 1896 Krag, but couldn't justify it for my 1956 Greek Garand -- it got the $17 surplus M5 type
I still want a bayonet for my Springfield, which if I'm not mistaken will probably cost even more than the Krag bayonet My carbine's currently having to make due with a reproduction WWII-era bayonet (by an original manufacturer, mind you).
That's the problem with these military rifles. You think all you've got to do is buy the gun -- but no ... there's also the bayonet, sheath, sling, magazine pouch, cleaning rod, oiler, takedown tool, etc. etc.
I laid out big money to put a bayonet on my 1896 Krag, but couldn't justify it for my 1956 Greek Garand -- it got the $17 surplus M5 type
I still want a bayonet for my Springfield, which if I'm not mistaken will probably cost even more than the Krag bayonet
My carbine's currently having to make due with a reproduction WWII-era bayonet (by an original manufacturer, mind you).That's the problem with these military rifles. You think all you've got to do is buy the gun -- but no ... there's also the bayonet, sheath, sling, magazine pouch, cleaning rod, oiler, takedown tool, etc. etc.
"uncut"
means, I believe, Model 1905 bayonet, designed for the 1903 rifle. During WWII many of these were ground to a shorter length more compatible with modern warfare. Still later an all-new bayonet was designed for the M1.
My bayonet is one of the shortened Model 1905 jobs; I found it at a gunshop without a scabbard and paid $35 for it. Later I was able to find a correct scabbard, the green plastic type, for about $30. Most 1905 bayonets, cut or otherwise, that I've seen at shows were pretty pricey, close to $100.
means, I believe, Model 1905 bayonet, designed for the 1903 rifle. During WWII many of these were ground to a shorter length more compatible with modern warfare. Still later an all-new bayonet was designed for the M1.
My bayonet is one of the shortened Model 1905 jobs; I found it at a gunshop without a scabbard and paid $35 for it. Later I was able to find a correct scabbard, the green plastic type, for about $30. Most 1905 bayonets, cut or otherwise, that I've seen at shows were pretty pricey, close to $100.
ktd
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I know it is not what you are looking for, but Sportsmans guide has a repro of the 16 inch blade, anachronistic or not, I just think they look cool which is why I am getting a long blade for my Garand.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=148275
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http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=148275
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If i've researched correctly, the old 1905 bayonet was cut down to 10" at first for use on the Garand. However, the M1 Bayonet was soon made to replace it on the Garand, and was made at 10", not cut down from the longer, older 16" one. You can see the difference when compared side by side. Bayonets cut down from 16" have the blood groove go all the way to the tip of the blade, whereas those that were made 10" have the blood groove end before the tip. What I'm interested in are these original M1 10" ones, not the 1905 or the ones cut down from 1905 16" blades.
Although Cortland makes a good point in waiting to see what year my particular rifle will have been made in; while I did make a general serial number range request with my order, I best wait and see what I end up with. Edit: I'm leaning towards getting one (m1 bayonet) even if my rifle is post-wwii, like ktd, anachronistic or not I like the way the 1905 and M1 look better than the post-WW2 blades.
Although Cortland makes a good point in waiting to see what year my particular rifle will have been made in; while I did make a general serial number range request with my order, I best wait and see what I end up with. Edit: I'm leaning towards getting one (m1 bayonet) even if my rifle is post-wwii, like ktd, anachronistic or not I like the way the 1905 and M1 look better than the post-WW2 blades.
Another point
although I'm sure you know this, Marmoot:
The designation M1 Bayonet didn't mean 'specifially made for the M1 rifle', but rather that it was the first bayonet adopted after the govt went to the 'M' deighnation instead of the 'Model' designation, e.g. 'Model 1903' rifle, versus the subsequent M14, M16, etc.
although I'm sure you know this, Marmoot:
The designation M1 Bayonet didn't mean 'specifially made for the M1 rifle', but rather that it was the first bayonet adopted after the govt went to the 'M' deighnation instead of the 'Model' designation, e.g. 'Model 1903' rifle, versus the subsequent M14, M16, etc.
The 16" will go for $150 and up typically.
The 10" uncut can fetch $75 to $100.
Sometimes the cutdown clip and spear point types fetch more than the 10" uncuts. Condition dependent.
(I have two 16" (M1905 early & late), two 10" uncuts, one clip point cutdown, one spear point, and one M5)
10" uncuts Sold Out, but you could drop them an email..
http://www.amerisurp.net/bayo.htm
M5:
http://www.southernohiogun.com/unusual.html
(oh, and of course, there's always ebay)
The 10" uncut can fetch $75 to $100.
Sometimes the cutdown clip and spear point types fetch more than the 10" uncuts. Condition dependent.
(I have two 16" (M1905 early & late), two 10" uncuts, one clip point cutdown, one spear point, and one M5)
10" uncuts Sold Out, but you could drop them an email..
http://www.amerisurp.net/bayo.htm
M5:
http://www.southernohiogun.com/unusual.html
(oh, and of course, there's always ebay)
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