gunmaker2872
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for some reason i cant delete my posts
is this normal ?
is this normal ?
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m1 garand ????
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Pics are good to have but you need to post make/serial number, numbers from parts, barrel, etc. as well as overall condition.
Looks relatively rough to me but the pics aren't the best quality.
Looks relatively rough to me but the pics aren't the best quality.
gunmaker2872
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well the condition seems quite good besides a few nicks in the furniture. the bore looks damm near new and the reciever is a CAI st albans vt,ser# m1 06319, bolt is stamped d28287-2sa,,,re1
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Just guessing but because it is not all matching you probably won't get more than 700 to 800 bucks for it. That is unless CAI guns are amazing in some way.
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CAI is Century Arms, aka the angry monkeys who built a small mountain of messed up CETMEs and FALs.
Fulton Armory has a page on the receiver of rifle S/N 01310 that concludes it's enough out of spec in a number of ways that it shouldn't be fired. (Link is just to Fulton Armory's webpage, to get to the actual review you have to go to M1 Garand Pages, and Garand FAQ.) I don't know what Century's hit/miss percentage was with their Garands, but I'd recommend letting a gunsmith check it out and at least gauge the chamber headspace before shooting it.
Fulton Armory has a page on the receiver of rifle S/N 01310 that concludes it's enough out of spec in a number of ways that it shouldn't be fired. (Link is just to Fulton Armory's webpage, to get to the actual review you have to go to M1 Garand Pages, and Garand FAQ.) I don't know what Century's hit/miss percentage was with their Garands, but I'd recommend letting a gunsmith check it out and at least gauge the chamber headspace before shooting it.
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Sorry, but Horsesoldier hit the nail on the head. I know the CAI's can look good and the price is right but for the same money you can get the real deal from the CMP.
The stock looks like the stock that was on my Dane return CMP field grade. The reciever on my Dane is a Springfield. I got a deal on it as the op rod is uncut and the rear sights are the lock bar type. The uncut op rods are not all that common any more as the cut was either cut into the oprod at rebuild or made with the cut to start with. The op rods were cut to relieve the stress on the op rod when firing rifle gernades. This rifle also has a VAR barrel which are well known around the shooting circles as being good shooters. At rebuild, most lockbar rear sights were replaced by the more common barrel type which are better for sight adjustments. But the lockbars are worth more $ today. All this for $475.00.
The stock looks like the stock that was on my Dane return CMP field grade. The reciever on my Dane is a Springfield. I got a deal on it as the op rod is uncut and the rear sights are the lock bar type. The uncut op rods are not all that common any more as the cut was either cut into the oprod at rebuild or made with the cut to start with. The op rods were cut to relieve the stress on the op rod when firing rifle gernades. This rifle also has a VAR barrel which are well known around the shooting circles as being good shooters. At rebuild, most lockbar rear sights were replaced by the more common barrel type which are better for sight adjustments. But the lockbars are worth more $ today. All this for $475.00.
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gunmaker2872
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thanks guys, i paid 300$ for it and was just curious what the resale value of these were
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gunmaker,
For $300 you did not get hurt. That's about right for an M1 parts kit..... I would NOT have paid $400 for a CAI built M1 unless it had some very rare and exceptionally collectible parts as a part of it's makeup.
Re the CAI M1 receivers: Reports on those have varied widely. They have not been made for some years now, but back when they were commonly available through distributors the guys buying them reported functionality running the gamut. If you have one that shoots and functions well.... be happy. If not, then I'd suggest you get a USGI receiver from the CMP and have the rifle re-built on that.
Also... the wood on your M1 is European Beech, stained dark. This was used by the Danish as replacement wood on the M1's that the US loaned-sold them way back when. Only two wood types were used by USGI suppliers and arsenals.... walnut (Mostly used as factory original.) and US birch (Mostly used as replacement wood.).
CAI used Danish returned M1 parts kits that came back to the US via Canada to build the M1's they sold. The CMP also sold complete Danish returned M1's a few years back.
For a good and better valuation of the rifle you have it would help to know all of the drawing & revision numbers on the rifles individual parts.
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Swampy
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For $300 you did not get hurt. That's about right for an M1 parts kit..... I would NOT have paid $400 for a CAI built M1 unless it had some very rare and exceptionally collectible parts as a part of it's makeup.
Re the CAI M1 receivers: Reports on those have varied widely. They have not been made for some years now, but back when they were commonly available through distributors the guys buying them reported functionality running the gamut. If you have one that shoots and functions well.... be happy. If not, then I'd suggest you get a USGI receiver from the CMP and have the rifle re-built on that.
Also... the wood on your M1 is European Beech, stained dark. This was used by the Danish as replacement wood on the M1's that the US loaned-sold them way back when. Only two wood types were used by USGI suppliers and arsenals.... walnut (Mostly used as factory original.) and US birch (Mostly used as replacement wood.).
CAI used Danish returned M1 parts kits that came back to the US via Canada to build the M1's they sold. The CMP also sold complete Danish returned M1's a few years back.
For a good and better valuation of the rifle you have it would help to know all of the drawing & revision numbers on the rifles individual parts.
Best regards,
Swampy
Garands forever
The beech stock will bring $125 retail with the hardware.
Depending on what barrel you have, it can bring $125 to $200 retail
Handguards are worth another $20 each
The operating rod is worth $100 or more
The trigger group is worth $40 to $100 depending on what it is and what parts make it up.
Gas cylinder assembly will bring another $50 if it gages correctly, fair warning, most don't.
For the sum of the useable parts, I would say you got your money's worth.
CAI Garands will normally go for $400-$500 in my area and most of the buyers are buying the guns for the parts and not as a shooting rifle.
Depending on what barrel you have, it can bring $125 to $200 retail
Handguards are worth another $20 each
The operating rod is worth $100 or more
The trigger group is worth $40 to $100 depending on what it is and what parts make it up.
Gas cylinder assembly will bring another $50 if it gages correctly, fair warning, most don't.
For the sum of the useable parts, I would say you got your money's worth.
CAI Garands will normally go for $400-$500 in my area and most of the buyers are buying the guns for the parts and not as a shooting rifle.
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