M1895 Nagant ejecting problem

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I got a chance to try out my 68 year-old new Nagant revolver today. (With that trigger pull, I'm lucky I can type right now!) A great little gun and surprisingly accurate, but there's a problem with ejecting the spent brass.

It was impossible to eject the brass from one of the chambers. I had to take the cylinder out of the frame and use the cleaning rod to pound it out. The brass couldn't fit in the other chambers either so it appears that the anterior part of that chamber might be slightly large allowing the shell to expand and wedge itself in the chamber.

Has anyone else had this problem with an M1985? Is there any solution short of buying a new cylinder or not using that chamber?
 
Wish I could help. Look at the bright side though.. having a five shooter isn't the end of the world! lol. Anyway, good luck. I'd at least make sure that that chamber is smooth.
 
5 shooter? No, the Nagants hold as much ammo as movie six-shooters, i.e. 7.
So now it's down to 6.
 
The standard 7.62x38r expands at the front to seal off the gases to the barrel. It can sometimes be a little difficult to get the cases out due to this.

How many times did you try a round in that chamber and did you clean it well before shooting?
 
Actually the cylinder cams forward against the tapered back end of the barrel to seal it? I agree with checking for a rough chamber and then polishing the rough one.
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I was using 7.62 Nagant Prvi ammo.

I think I reloaded it about 7-8 times and every single time the brass stuck in that chamber. And really stuck. I had to take the cylinder off the frame, insert the cleaning rod into the shell and pound the end of the cleaning rod on the bench several times before the case popped out.

I cleaned the gun well with mineral spirits and oiled it when I got it.

The offending chamber looks as smooth as all the others.

More importantly, the cases run through all the other chambers can fit back in any chamber, but the cases run through that particular chamber cannot fit in any other chamber. That's why I think the anterior part of that chamber is too large, rather than rough.

Perhaps it was rough at one time and then polished when the gun was refurbished causing the front end to be slightly larger than it should be?
 
Sounds like a bulged chamber from an over-load to me.

Nest time, color a loaded round with a black marker before you shoot it.

Then when you drive it out, you can see where it is scraping the marker ink off.
And that right there is the problem.

rc
 
^^^ This. You may be able to polish it out a little bit to where you can actually eject the cases without issue. Use a marker to color the shell black, insert and fire, then pound it out. You'll be able to see where it'll need the polishing.
 
If it's bulged that much, I doubt polishing is gonna help, unless you cut the whole chamber way oversize to get it straight again.

Which would best be done with a custom order oversize chamber reamer.

Which would cost about six times more then the gun is worth.

rc
 
Right.

But "polishing" as most people would do it will just follow the bulge and polish it the same amount to.

So when you get done, you still have a bulged chamber and sticky extraction.
Just a shinier bulged chamber and sticky extraction.

rc
 
I had the same problem with mine and it took me a while to figure out that there was a small burr at the front of the chamber that was catching the brass...after filing that down, extraction is easier, but I still frequently use the cleaning rod to eject the more stubborn shells (it's frankly faster than using the ejecting rod anyways.
 
Thanks guys. Next time I take it to the range I'll be sure to try the marker trick and see exactly where the problem is. Looking carefully at the cylinder, it does look like one of the forward part of one of the chambers may not be perfectly round.

I can see how polishing the rear part of the chamber to match the forward part might fix the problem.

I'll mull it over carefully before doing anything. In a year or so I'll let you all know how it turned out!
 
A burr is possible, I've fondled a Nagant before that had one; really simple fix. But th Russians were velocity freaks and a hot round seems likely. Probably happened before he purchased the revolver. I still want one.
 
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck said:
A burr is possible, I've fondled a Nagant before that had one; really simple fix. But th Russians were velocity freaks and a hot round seems likely. Probably happened before he purchased the revolver. I still want one.
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Honestly, those guns are stupidly tough. A hot rodded round is not likely to bulge a chamber. Heck, people regularly shoot 32h&r mags (much hotter than the proper 7.62x38r ammo) out of them without issue.

I think it's either a burr or a machining issue.

Hate to say, but, well, it's a $90 gun. If you can't fix it cheaply by polishing the damn thing, just load it, toss it in the back of your safe (or your toolbox, glovebox, nightstand, etc), and buy another for range use.

I know collectors would get mad at me for this, but these guns make great abuse/neglect/beater guns. Dirt cheap to buy, tough and reliable as can be. Would trust one over a hi-point any day of the week.
 
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