M98 mauser receivers

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Hi guys, hope im posting in the right section. I've always been a big fan of mauser rifles and actions. I'm wanting to build a new hunting rifle based on a mauser action as I have a plethora of parts. However, I cannot seem to find any actions or even stripped receivers for sale anymore. I see numrich arms does not seem to have them anymore and a general Google search isn't turning anything up either. Have they really dried up completely. Anyone know where to source one?
 
around here auctions and just about every gun shop has a few sporterized 98 mausers, I picked up this 98 german W-2 mauser for 250.00 not to long ago to rebarrel to a 35 whelen. but it shoots so good in the original 8mm mauser that I have left it alone, it was sportized in the mid-60,s by a local gun smith and all the work is top shelf and it was taken care of by the man who had it built. I,m sure the cost of the work done, today would go over way over what I paid for it. eastbank.
 

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Yeah keep an eye on gunbroker, and any local auctions as the guys have said.
Specifically look for already Sporterized rifles, the usually have some good parts already installed, or if they dont they are normally pretty cheap. This will also keep you free of MOST flaming, for being a sporterizer.
 
if that mauser didn,t shoot as good as it does, it would have been a donor action-stock with all the work already done. D&T-bolt altered-new safety installed- military trigger replaced-polished and blued and a real nice stock to boot, to get a good 98 mauser action and a very good stock with all the work done for 250.00 would be a steal. all I would have had to do is get a 35 whelen barrel and have it installed. eastbank.
 
yeah thats a beautifull rifle you go there eastbank. I get Nanooks desire to use up parts, but def agree previously sporterized guns are the way to go at this point.
There actually a nicely done 98 listed on gb from a local seller that im gonna keep my eye on...cant really justify another standard caliber rifle, but....well....i suck at justification anyway....
 
And still some will argue it's your obligation to restore every "molested" example to it's former military glory, regardless of cost or practicality.


...I did say Most :D


Those Comercial recievers look really nice. Be a great place to start for a full custom mauser build.
 
I do know of the dumoulin actions and they do seem very nice. I remember 2-3 years ago numrich arms would sell mauser barreled actions for like $100 and you could get stripped receivers for about $30. Just can't believe they're gone.
 
to turn my rifle back to original condition would cost at least 100,s of dollars, original military stock and metal, new bolt-trigger-safety- sights- weld tap holes and dress down-refinish metal and I would have a mismatched-refinished rifle worth may be 300.00 dollars. eastbank.
 
You can buy a Zastava M70, a commercial Mauser, imported by Century. Can be found around $400, my local Cabela has, or had, them on the gun rack marked down to even less to clear them out a few months back. I sort of remember cheapest one was only $269 or $299 in .243. I still have a VZ24 mauser action waiting to build, so I passed it.
I built couple on Turk large ring mausers when they were $80!:)
 
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Buy a commercial Zastava and you have a sporterized gun with all new parts and for less than the cost of the parts for a milsurp build. The only minor nitpick is that they have a trigger safety rather than a bolt mounted one.
 
You can still find a stripped non-german or russian captured german WWII era receivers for about $50-100 but adding the additional necessary parts brings it above what you can buy an existing sporter Mauser for. Plus, the stripped receiver may or may not be warped, have lug setback, cracks, etc. Unless your kick is milsurp restoration that is rapidly becoming uneconomic, doing these as a nice accurate sporter requires you to do a lot of it yourself. The military ones were designed for war. durability, reliability, and good enough accuracy, not as a hunting rifle. The fine sporters that Mauser made are really high in price.

Your average new Savage Axis, Ruger American, entry level Remington, even probably the Mossberg sporter rifles, etc. will most likely shoot better, are cheaper, be easier to mount a scope to, and be able to get aftermarket accessories and parts, easier than adapting an old milsurp. For the price of fully kitting out one via a gunsmith, you are looking at midrange rifle prices unless you do much of the work yourself which requires tools and know how.

I am not a purist in such matters, most of the history is gone with a bare receiver and the value of it pretty much is a shooter right then. Nevertheless, if you do it, then do it right as buggering up the sporter job is the real unforgiveable sin. You also need to know something about the Mauser platform and its shortcomings. Use the right tools, take your time, do it right, or pay someone else to do it. The machining on the receiver of many of those old warhorses is pretty amazing given the era many of these were made. These rifles took a level of manufacturing craftsmanship that you simply do not see today unless you are paying premium prices. That being said, technology has marched on and today's rifles are something that even all of the old era craftsmanship would not be able to duplicate on a mass basis if at all.
 
I have made up more than a few sporters out of surpluse rifles in the 60,s when they were very cheap and there seemed that were no end to then. I did the wood work( VG 98 mauser-34.00) and a local gunsmith D&T-bent the bolt-new safty and changed the two stage trigger into a single stage for 25.00. I made a few truck rifles out of mk-4 303 british rifles(10-12 dollars) by just cutting the wood and taking all the extra metal off. they made a decent cheap rifle for not much money, just not pretty. I even took a 94 Swedish carbine(24.00) in mint condition and put it under the hacksaw, I still have nightmares over that one. they brought them in by the ton from all nations and were every where cheap and most thought they would never end and would be around forever. I even ordered them thru the mail (yee old hunters lodge) and they came right to the post office. here is a 8mm 98 german mauser(BCD-43) that escaped the hacksaw and metal work, it did receive a light coat of varnish by the original owner before I bought it. eastbank.
 

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BTW, the Dumoulin receivers are more designed for mounting scopes as they lack the charger bulge, have flat tops, etc. They resemble the Parker Hale receivers and are made of modern steel with modern techniques. You can find bare receivers from time to time on Gunbroker (Numrich is now selling receivers and other collectible parts on gunbroker auctions as well which is why you are not finding them on the web--not through their website).

The 1938 receivers sold by Sarco are actually m1908 receivers sold primarily to Latin American countries. When these were imported into the U.S., for some reason, all of these mausers including German prewar receivers were called 1938 Mausers when they were actually of various types and years of manufacture. Not sure if it was one importer or just a general thing--my pre-WWII Oberndorf was listed as a 1938 model receiver when it was not.

From Sarco
"ORIGINAL 98 MAUSER, 1908 BRAZILIAN RECEIVER, MADE BY DVM IN GERMANY (STANDARD LENGTH LARGE RING ACTION & RECEIVER)
Original German 98 Mauser. Actions Once again available we havent sold these for years now. These are 1908 model Mauser actions made by Deutsche Waffenund Munitionsfabriken one of the greatest German military factories at the height of Mauser productions - Actions are with all milled parts - May have minor pitting. Less than 100 left!! While they last."

These are going to be pre-WWI actions and would be okay if you plan on rebarreling in its original calibers (7x57 or perhaps 8mm) or calibers with similar pressure levels. One issue that you may or may not consider is that the magazines and feeding rails of these receivers are built around the military issue cartridge--if you stay within the profile of these (cartridges based off of the military cartridge), then cartridge feeding from the magazine is not an issue so much but some of today's cartridges will require working on receiver feeding rails. Some of these cartridges will require opening up the bolt face (or like the 7.62x39--closing it up).

A THR poster, Slamfire, has done a lot of research on the steels used in these old warhorses which you can find somewhere here in the archives. You would need to check with Sarco but some of these could be Brazilian 1908's that were re-heat treated for the .30-06 after WWII which opinions vary on their suitability after this.

The major issue with these are if you plan on firing modern higher pressure cartridges in these old pre WWI receivers is that Mausers of that era were built from carbon steel using case hardening over a relatively soft interior. Firing higher pressure rounds than designed causes the softer steel in the receiver bolt lug recesses to deform--leading to increasing headspace. The other problem is that well worn examples may have worn through the case hardening at the surface of the bolt recesses exposing the softer steel underneath--some have also done this by excessive lapping the bolts and recesses to make the action smoother or to fit a bolt to the receiver. Swapping bolts to fix the headspace issue will not fix the issue for very long and effectively the receiver is kaput.

Early WWII era receivers are better made from a steel standpoint and some of the 1930's receivers from some makers such as CZ-Brno, Oberndorf, Steyr are fine if not abused. FN also made Mausers during this era which have mixed opinions regarding receiver softness--post war sporters etc. are ok. However, late WWII 44-45 German receivers workmanship including heat treatment and steels can be suspect.
 
Here is a pretty nice example of what can be done with a milsurp '98 Mauser: The action has been shortened by and inch, plus the front ring "crested" for a trimmer profile, M-70 style safety installed and handle reshaped and checkered, then fitted into a pretty piece of wood. Making it perfect for short caliber like the .250 Savage... DSC08864.JPG DSC08860.JPG DSC08866.JPG
 
BTW, the Dumoulin receivers are more designed for mounting scopes as they lack the charger bulge, have flat tops, etc. They resemble the Parker Hale receivers and are made of modern steel with modern techniques. You can find bare receivers from time to time on Gunbroker (Numrich is now selling receivers and other collectible parts on gunbroker auctions as well which is why you are not finding them on the web--not through their website).

The 1938 receivers sold by Sarco are actually m1908 receivers sold primarily to Latin American countries. When these were imported into the U.S., for some reason, all of these mausers including German prewar receivers were called 1938 Mausers when they were actually of various types and years of manufacture. Not sure if it was one importer or just a general thing--my pre-WWII Oberndorf was listed as a 1938 model receiver when it was not.

From Sarco
"ORIGINAL 98 MAUSER, 1908 BRAZILIAN RECEIVER, MADE BY DVM IN GERMANY (STANDARD LENGTH LARGE RING ACTION & RECEIVER)
Original German 98 Mauser. Actions Once again available we havent sold these for years now. These are 1908 model Mauser actions made by Deutsche Waffenund Munitionsfabriken one of the greatest German military factories at the height of Mauser productions - Actions are with all milled parts - May have minor pitting. Less than 100 left!! While they last."

These are going to be pre-WWI actions and would be okay if you plan on rebarreling in its original calibers (7x57 or perhaps 8mm) or calibers with similar pressure levels. One issue that you may or may not consider is that the magazines and feeding rails of these receivers are built around the military issue cartridge--if you stay within the profile of these (cartridges based off of the military cartridge), then cartridge feeding from the magazine is not an issue so much but some of today's cartridges will require working on receiver feeding rails. Some of these cartridges will require opening up the bolt face (or like the 7.62x39--closing it up).

A THR poster, Slamfire, has done a lot of research on the steels used in these old warhorses which you can find somewhere here in the archives. You would need to check with Sarco but some of these could be Brazilian 1908's that were re-heat treated for the .30-06 after WWII which opinions vary on their suitability after this.

The major issue with these are if you plan on firing modern higher pressure cartridges in these old pre WWI receivers is that Mausers of that era were built from carbon steel using case hardening over a relatively soft interior. Firing higher pressure rounds than designed causes the softer steel in the receiver bolt lug recesses to deform--leading to increasing headspace. The other problem is that well worn examples may have worn through the case hardening at the surface of the bolt recesses exposing the softer steel underneath--some have also done this by excessive lapping the bolts and recesses to make the action smoother or to fit a bolt to the receiver. Swapping bolts to fix the headspace issue will not fix the issue for very long and effectively the receiver is kaput.

Early WWII era receivers are better made from a steel standpoint and some of the 1930's receivers from some makers such as CZ-Brno, Oberndorf, Steyr are fine if not abused. FN also made Mausers during this era which have mixed opinions regarding receiver softness--post war sporters etc. are ok. However, late WWII 44-45 German receivers workmanship including heat treatment and steels can be suspect.

I somehow missed this reply and just went to sarcos website. I prefer the 8mm cartridge for deer hunting because of Proficiency with heavy bullets. Would you recommend these receivers if I rebarrel in 8mm? Even though they are ww1 will they still accept standard large ring ww2 barrels?
 
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