Machine Guns Aimed at Children (in San Francisco)

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John Dvorak has a nice piece at
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/index.php?p=953
where Mr. Dvorak writes about: "rolls by in his limo in downtown San Francisco surrounded by the local Police and various black SUV’s including one with some character pointing a machine gun out the window at Christmas shoppers, my children included." California must be a really odd place and San Francisco odd even for California?
 
But the common man can not even own a semi auto look a like in Calf. But here we have people from other countries carrying them and pointing them at citizens. This is very wrong.
 
How do foreign leader's guards having weapons in America work? Are they automatically allowed whatever they want, or are they registered, or what?
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Yes, usually foreign leaders are allowed to have armed guards. The exact details of how many guards and how many guns are a State Department matter. Basically, it's a two way street. When the President of the US goes to some other country, he brings along security people and his security people bring along guns. So, when the leader of another country visits this country, they get to do the same.

They're registered, and they usually have special permits/passports.
 
Our beloved ATF got in a tiff with the UN recently as Kofi Annan's guards had MP5s whose paperwork wasnt all in order, and his security group did not have the proper accredidation to be a security company (to be able to have the weapons in the first place, much less import them).

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If you see a limo filled with turd world leaders guarded by automatic weapons, do as they do in the turd world- toss a molotov cocktail into the car. :evil:
 
Could have been interesting. Imagine a couple of gang-bangers hanging out. They see the gun, think "drive-by", and open up on the limo. I'm sure the guards would spray half the sidewalk with bullets at the mere hint of a threat.
 
But the common man can not even own a semi auto look a like in Calf.
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is that correct?
i dont think it is, you just cant have full auto or assault, and even that went away with the ban. we have some weirdo laws i know.
somebody clear me up or give me a decent link that will ??????

anyway gangbangers? not around there. union square is Ritzy.

even gangbangers would not be spraying down limos. new jack city was a movie.

if this guy was the KING of a country, i give him the right to be protected.
get real- how you think Bush travels????????
you dont think accidentally crossing the SService's path might be unpleasant?

now if he was a regular diplomat or ambassador, i would be outraged.

you also have to figure- these guys are protecting their KING. they are not some rent-a-cop jokers , they are that country's secret service.
i would have faith they wont randomly gun down a bunch of shoppers.

the big differnence with U.S. security is you just wouldnt see the guns pointed at you. heheh.

ps- yeah it really is different over here, and more so in Berkeley and SF.
way weird.
 
is that correct?
i dont think it is, you just cant have full auto or assault, and even that went away with the ban. we have some weirdo laws i know.
somebody clear me up or give me a decent link that will ??????
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I'm trying to be nice about it, but this is the kind of "legal ignorance" that is working against us as a group.
http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/

get real- how you think Bush travels????????
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I think if the Secret Service drove down the middle of the city with machine guns sticking out the windows and pointing at people, we'd hear about it on the news. :rolleyes:
 
Yes, usually foreign leaders are allowed to have armed guards. The exact details of how many guards and how many guns are a State Department matter. Basically, it's a two way street. When the President of the US goes to some other country, he brings along security people and his security people bring along guns.
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I'm sure I've read that this is a touchy subject. Isn't the U. S. Secret Service responsible for the security of foreign leaders, and haven't they - the USSS - had PR problems in some foreign locales because they wanted to retain their arms, and not depend on "locals" for security?

AFAIK, security team members don't automatically get "diplomatic immunity," do they? I thought that was reserved for diplomats. ("Diplomats" include people like the late and unlamented Yassir Arafat, who was packing a loaded pistol when he addressed the U.N. a couple of decades ago in N.Y.C.)
 
I'm trying to be nice about it, but this is the kind of "legal ignorance" that is working against us as a group.
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no man totally thanks, i dont want to spread bad info , that's why i aksed for someone to clear me up- it's so hard to find a link that just lists the laws for me.
really appreciate the help
 
ok i've been to that site before, it's a lot of slogging to find answers but =
12276.1 (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:

(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.

i guess that would pretty much cover anything that looks like a machine gun huh.
i have seen some "converted" weapons that were supposedly legal as semi auto, but from the looks of these laws , they are not legal.
thanks for straightening me out

also -
I think if the Secret Service drove down the middle of the city with machine guns sticking out the windows and pointing at people, we'd hear about it on the news.
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well yeah, but my point was U.S. can put people all over the place- we jsut don't see the guns pointed at us, theyre on rooftops and such.
the Jordan guy can't do all that.
 
Imagine a couple of gang-bangers hanging out. They see the gun, think "drive-by", and open up on the limo. I'm sure the guards would spray half the sidewalk with bullets at the mere hint of a threat.
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That could actually happen.
 
/sarcasm

I'm not sure why you guys are complaining. I mean it's only a $50,000 contribution to the sherrif to get a permit, what's the big problem?

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