Mark G.
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Do any of the magazine loaders work? I am loading 9mm in my Sig P228 high capacity mags as well as 9mm in my Kahr K-9 which is single stack. Do any of the loaders work for both staggered and in line? Thanks for the info!!
Magazine Loaders
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cratz2
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Funny... I've never used one. Never used the ones that come with guns either. When loading a Ruger Mk II, I just rest the mag slide thingy against a bench or whatever is handy.
Hi Mark G.
I use the Magloader exclusively on everyhting I shoot, single stack, double stack, everything. It's simple, inexpensive and it works.
http://www.magloader.com/
Be Well,
Scarface
I use the Magloader exclusively on everyhting I shoot, single stack, double stack, everything. It's simple, inexpensive and it works.
http://www.magloader.com/
Be Well,
Scarface
Tango Sierra
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I use the HKS speedloaders. They really help keeping my right thumb tip from getting nicked and cut plus they are faster. There are several different models. I use one for my 1911 and Sig P220 mags, one for my XD, USP and CZ mags and another for my P225 mags.
Every time another shooter at the range sees me using one and comes over to ask about the speedloader I let them try it out and then they always go out to the sales counter and buy one (or two, or three).
http://www.midwayusa.com/midwayusa/...to+Begin+Search.x=0&Click+to+Begin+Search.y=0
Every time another shooter at the range sees me using one and comes over to ask about the speedloader I let them try it out and then they always go out to the sales counter and buy one (or two, or three).
http://www.midwayusa.com/midwayusa/...to+Begin+Search.x=0&Click+to+Begin+Search.y=0
fastbolt
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Somebody once gave me a box of those blue Magloader things. I tried to use one once and it was like relearning to walk on stilts, so I went back to the way I'd been doing it ... successfully ... for more than 40 years.
Now, if a smaller statured shooter ... especially one who wears their fingernails long, painted and neatly manicured ... finds it easier and more convenient to use those types of magazine loading devices, then I think that's perfectly fine.
Seriously, though ...
I've seen a lot of these various devices laying in the range bags of folks that come through the CCW courses, except I seldom see anyone actually using them while loading magazines at the range. I often ask folks why they aren't using their magazine loaders, if they have them, and for the most part they answer that it's easier to load the magazines without them.
Then again, I've watched some folks trying to load magazines without using them, and having such a hard time that it's almost too painful to watch them. I invariably politely ask if I can assist them ... (in order to avoid holding up the class, although I don't say it that way) ... and I assume the task of quickly loading their magazines for them ... the old fashioned way, in my case ...
If these devices work for you ... cool. Use them. Maybe your fingers won't feel tender & abused at the end of a range session of 500+ rounds fired. That's a good thing ...
If not? Well, that's fine, too.
Just don't load the cartridges in the magazines backwards, however you do it, and you're doing fine.
Now, if a smaller statured shooter ... especially one who wears their fingernails long, painted and neatly manicured ... finds it easier and more convenient to use those types of magazine loading devices, then I think that's perfectly fine.
Seriously, though ...
I've seen a lot of these various devices laying in the range bags of folks that come through the CCW courses, except I seldom see anyone actually using them while loading magazines at the range. I often ask folks why they aren't using their magazine loaders, if they have them, and for the most part they answer that it's easier to load the magazines without them.
Then again, I've watched some folks trying to load magazines without using them, and having such a hard time that it's almost too painful to watch them. I invariably politely ask if I can assist them ... (in order to avoid holding up the class, although I don't say it that way) ... and I assume the task of quickly loading their magazines for them ... the old fashioned way, in my case ...
If these devices work for you ... cool. Use them. Maybe your fingers won't feel tender & abused at the end of a range session of 500+ rounds fired. That's a good thing ...
If not? Well, that's fine, too.
Just don't load the cartridges in the magazines backwards, however you do it, and you're doing fine.
Preacherman
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Yep - I've used the HKS magazine loaders at high-volume courses at Thunder Ranch, Chapman Academy and LFI, and found them a real blessing. When you're loading 300-400 rounds a day, your thumb gets really, really sore after a couple of days! These things make my life much easier, and my thumb much less painful!
minnesota oldie
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Cambi loader. It comes with adapters for just about any magazine. I use it all the time, not because my fingernails are painted and polished but because of nerve damage to my hands sustained over my 22 years of military service. Go ahead look in my range bag and you will see it there. If you want to make some snide remark about it I'll give you a hint where you might find it next. Bend over.
B27
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I really like the one piece, no moving parts designs like the Versa-Loader...
The Glock mag loaders that they have the good sense to include with their guns will also work well on a number of other manufacturers mags.
The Glock mag loaders that they have the good sense to include with their guns will also work well on a number of other manufacturers mags.
fastbolt
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Hmmm ...
Okay, I tried to make my comments obviously appear joking & tongue-in-cheek (and certainly not applicable to any real person, let alone you). I'll certainly apologize it you took offense ... whether you took it personally, or just in general.
You always that quick to be touchy?
Actually, I was unable to load magazines for a while, with or without a loading device, because of nerve damage. The odd thing is that although I miraculously recovered almost all use of my thumb & finger, I still can't quite control the magloader ring with my thumb as well as I'd like, and for some reason I find it easier to use my bare thumb, even though it tires faster. I had to adjust the way I used my strong thumb to accomodate my other one while loading magazines.
As I said in my earlier thread ... if you didn't stop reading it when you got upset ... I'm often surprised to find that people have bothered to buy these loading devices, but then don't use them for whatever reason. I remember once watching a young man having a hard time loading his Glock magazines, and when I suggested he might try a loader, he told me that he had the one that came with his pistol ... but just didn't use it.
I'm also frequently surprised that some people that ARE smaller statured, and admittedly lack sufficient hand strength to repeatedly load magazines, and who DO find it more than a little awkward to try and load rounds into magazines because of their long fingernails ... and who I've also made the suggestion that they consider trying a simple loading device ... don't. Just not that important to them, I suppose.
And no, before you ask, I've never joked or teased anyone who used one on the range.
And yes, I DO often ask to assist many folks that come through the CCW course, and either lack the hand strength & comfortable co-ordination to easily load their magazine between each string of fire ... or else suffer from some condition or disability which causes them problems doing it for themselves without holding up other shooters and causing themselves needless embarrassment. I particularly dislike seeing elderly men who fought in WWII appear needlessly embarrassed because they can't easily load their magazines, for reasons sometimes similar to yours ... when they can shoot very well indeed. Their service and their abilities require no embarrassment.
I also don't look in folk's range bags, and don't care what you carry in yours, or why.
You can look elsewhere if you want to get your back up ... or else realize I wasn't trying to be "snide" with you personally ... and accept my apology ... and relax.
After sometimes loading several hundred rounds into magazines during a day, and feeling my thumb become virtually raw & tender, I've often wished for one of the larger & faster devices that act like stripper clips. I'm not the only one that's had that thought at our range, either. Maybe someday ...
In the meantime, I still do it the hard way ... and try to make it into a Zen kind of thing ...
count me as another vote for HKS loaders. i started off with the glock loader, one-peice and simple, but built for a .40 and using it on a 9mm magazine wasn't working well for me; my woman got an hks loader for her ppk, and i fell in love again, so to speak; bought one for myself.
VaughnT
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I was going to buy one of those previously-mentioned universal loaders, but nobody around here carries them. So, I bought an HKS speedloader designed for my HiPower mags.
I don't use it all the time, but it does very well when I do use it and it makes loading standard capacity magazines very easy. Were I to use this pistol in a shooting school where hundreds of rounds were fired, like they allege happens at Blackwater Lodge, I'm sure the loader would be a blessing.
For my 1911 mags, the old thumb does just fine.
I don't use it all the time, but it does very well when I do use it and it makes loading standard capacity magazines very easy. Were I to use this pistol in a shooting school where hundreds of rounds were fired, like they allege happens at Blackwater Lodge, I'm sure the loader would be a blessing.
For my 1911 mags, the old thumb does just fine.
Yeah, I have used them over the years. I haven't bought one for handgun magazines for well over 10 years and it sounds like there may be some new stuff out there.
The ones I bought were called "Super Thumb". I had several. I used them for a couple handguns I had with double stack magazines. I also had one for my Ruger Mk. II which I still use when ever I can find it. For those of you who don't own a Mk. II, it has a smallish button on the side that you need to hold down against spring tension to load the mag. The mag loader is nothing more than a piece of heavy plastic that goes around the whole magazine and allow you to hold the button down with something larger than that little button. Without it, my thumb hurts after about 50 rounds at around 100 I am ready to quit just because I don't want to load anymore magazines. I have two of these pistols and it makes a big difference.
A little off the topic of handguns, I have a magazine loader for my Sten Mk. II submachine gun. It uses a 32 round stick magazine and they are a bear to load by hand. The magazine loader I use is original WWII surplus. If I didn't have it, I would almost never shoot the gun.
I also have a mag loader for the AR15s called a LULA. It is a godsend. I discovered this loader when I was taking the Gunsite Basic Carbine Class. For purposes of a formal class, what makes it great is that it not only allows you to easily load the magazines but also allows you to easily UN-load magazines. In these classes it is considered bad form to shoot until the gun is empty and the bolt is locked to the rear. They want you to load when there is a lull in the action and to keep your carbine loaded and ready to go at all times. So, you are doing tac loads all the time. You might fire 10 rounds or 20 or 26 or whatever. You get a break to load magazines and you have a whole pile of magazines loaded with an unknown number or rounds. With the LULA you can consolidate your ammo into fully loaded magazines by unloading the ones that feel light and topping off the rest. I wouldn't purposly go without a LULA again. When you are going through 2000 rounds in a week, loading magazines becomes a chore. A mag loader really helps.
The ones I bought were called "Super Thumb". I had several. I used them for a couple handguns I had with double stack magazines. I also had one for my Ruger Mk. II which I still use when ever I can find it. For those of you who don't own a Mk. II, it has a smallish button on the side that you need to hold down against spring tension to load the mag. The mag loader is nothing more than a piece of heavy plastic that goes around the whole magazine and allow you to hold the button down with something larger than that little button. Without it, my thumb hurts after about 50 rounds at around 100 I am ready to quit just because I don't want to load anymore magazines. I have two of these pistols and it makes a big difference.
A little off the topic of handguns, I have a magazine loader for my Sten Mk. II submachine gun. It uses a 32 round stick magazine and they are a bear to load by hand. The magazine loader I use is original WWII surplus. If I didn't have it, I would almost never shoot the gun.
I also have a mag loader for the AR15s called a LULA. It is a godsend. I discovered this loader when I was taking the Gunsite Basic Carbine Class. For purposes of a formal class, what makes it great is that it not only allows you to easily load the magazines but also allows you to easily UN-load magazines. In these classes it is considered bad form to shoot until the gun is empty and the bolt is locked to the rear. They want you to load when there is a lull in the action and to keep your carbine loaded and ready to go at all times. So, you are doing tac loads all the time. You might fire 10 rounds or 20 or 26 or whatever. You get a break to load magazines and you have a whole pile of magazines loaded with an unknown number or rounds. With the LULA you can consolidate your ammo into fully loaded magazines by unloading the ones that feel light and topping off the rest. I wouldn't purposly go without a LULA again. When you are going through 2000 rounds in a week, loading magazines becomes a chore. A mag loader really helps.
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