Discussion in 'Handguns: Accessories, Holsters, and Optics' started by JellyJar, Jan 5, 2016.
If so are they suitable for every day use or just good for show?
It's really old stuff,,,
According to Wikipedia they went extinct 10 to 11 thousand years ago.
Back in the mid 60's,,,
My Pop found a mammoth skeleton in NW Oklahoma.
He was looking for old dump sites to excavate,,,
And found some bones in a recent washed out gully.
He called someone at Oklahoma University,,,
I remember being amazed when they weren't excited at all.
Apparently that's not a rare find in that part of the state.
Anyways, we went back and dug up as much as we could find,,,
It was no means intact but we found about 3 feet of tusk.
I tried making some knife handles from a piece of tusk,,,
But it was too far gone to be of any decent worth,,,
The pieces crumbled under the slightest stress.
So I suppose it all depends on the condition of the ivory,,,
I have seen examples for sale over the years,,,
So someone has had more success than I.
Type, mammoth tusk pistol grips, into a Google search,,,
It came up with hundreds of images like this one.
In fact the company in the image exists,,,
And has a nice website.
I was looking at gripps for 1911s on the Wilson Combat web site
and found a pair made fromm Mastodon (I believe) tukss. Looked
ok, but at $300 I have better things to spend money on a 1911
Be a shame with a oops to crack them grips Rosewood and other
exotic hardwoods are more forgiving and I would think warm to the
touch much better.
As I recall the shop owner said that the material came from a mining operation near Ester, Ak...near FB. According to him, the stuff was c/14 dated at 18000 plus or minus.....said that came from the U of A...Fbnks.
As I said, made two sets, one for a buddy's New Frontier .357 and another for my flat top .44 Ruger....my set split the left rear section in half while I was shooting it in extremely cold weather, probably due to my workmanship and not the material...my friends gun held up well and last I heard he still had those grips..
I guess it just comes down to the quality of the particular material you are working with.
Did see an ad in the Amercan Handgunner mag. a few years back wherein somone in Ester was offering Mammoth ivory for sale.......might be worth a check.
I have also put pre-ban elephant ivory on several of my single actions going back over a decade and none have been a problem in any way. Ivory is kind of habit forming.
Every bit of fossil I have ever recovered was taken to the Florida museum of Natural History in Gainesville and offered to the state. They gave almost everything I took in back to me. They have kept one piece.....and then gone out and scowered the river bottom around where I found it. An intact thighbone ( both ends) of a Turkey sized Terror Bird. As I expected they found no more of that beasty as most of what you find is stuff washed down stream over the millinia, but plenty of bits of other things to keep students busy with. Been a good 20 years since those days and I no longer dive for the state or at all of late.
There was some discussion of getting together a school group to go wading for primitive sharks teeth though now a days even that takes permitting and a fee if you fan or sane rather than just picking up off the bottom and so it fell through. Local streams produce everything from teenie tiny needle pointed primitive sharks teeth to hand sized Charchadon Megla- I had best stop even trying to spell....but most of the time folks find nothing in the places everyone knows about.
Oddly I have only ever found one early human artifact diving, a "hand Knife" and oddly enough right near it some butchered fossilized Manatee bone bearing cuts that fit the edge. This was given to the folks at Hommassassa Springs (were it was found on a state sanctioned dive I actually got paid for)when the county owned it. Since being taken over by the state I have been told neither knife or bone are in the collection. For all you divers, there was no graffiti or trash in Hommassassa when I dove it multiple times in around 1987 absolutely pristine ....of course no one had been in the actual spring tunnel since Cousto in the 1960's......
Tusks are teeth, upper canine teeth in the case of elephants.
And they really need to be. Even modern ivory is subject to chipping as is the nature of the micro crystalline structure of the teeth. The problem can be even worse for fossil and subfossil versions depending on the level and type of fossilization and how much cracking occurred in the material before fossilization.
Given the similarity of stone tools, you could have found a lot of specimens that would fit the cut marks on the manatee and would also fit cut marks on a plains bison. Still, very cool finds.
And these ivory on my DW, but the photo shows them on the Nighthawk:
I guess maybe I should maybe try my hand at making some goodies. You never know what you can find around my house or shop...for that matter, I don't know either sometimes. A guy can certainly collect some strange stuff over a matter of years.
Yes but they use both tusks and teeth and the finished product made from teeth looks very different from that made from tusks. The pics in post #2 are teeth.
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