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Man arrested after 1 year old shot in head

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by fearless leader, Jan 19, 2008.

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  1. fearless leader

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  2. hockeybum

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    heres the story for those that don't wanna link

    INDIANAPOLIS -- A man was arrested and charged after his 1-year-old son was shot in the head, police said.

    Police said Adam Chavez, 19, was playing with a gun when the weapon fired, hitting Adam Chavez Jr. in the head and thigh shortly before 1 p.m. Wednesday.

    The boy's mother, Christina Cardenas, 19, grabbed the boy and ran out of the house, where she met police officers who happened to be nearby, authorities said.

    The boy was taken to Methodist Hospital, where he remained in critical condition Thursday morning after undergoing surgery, WRTV-TV in Indianapolis reported.

    The boy's father, who was charged with criminal recklessness with a firearm, said the shooting was an accident.

    However, his account differed from that of the child's mother, according to police, who declined to provide further information.

    He was visiting from Texas, police said.

    "He did possess the firearm. It did discharge while it was in his possession, and he should have known better than to handle this weapon, especially in that close proximity of anyone," said Indianapolis Metro police Sgt. Paul Thompson.

    Police said the gun belonged to the home's resident, whom they didn't identify.

    Darleena Myers, who lives two doors down from the house where the boy was wounded, said police were in her home to help with an eviction when they heard the boy's mom yelling outside. One of the officers ran outside and met the mom, Myers said.

    "She had her child in her arms, and the baby was crying hysterically. You could see blood everywhere. You could see where the baby was shot," Myers said. "The ambulance showed up within two minutes and took (the child and his mother) out of here. They didn't even do any work here -- they just rushed them right into the ambulance and took them out."

    Chavez faces up to eight years in prison if he is convicted.

    talk about a dumb:cuss:...
     
  3. El Tejon

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    Ferret Face always files heavy on non-whites. I cannot see how a jury could see this a reckless, especially if the defense can get in that FF does not file on cops who do stupid things with guns.

    Wait and see.

    All the more reason to follow the The Four Rules: they are life and a way to stay out of jail.
     
  4. mekender

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    rewrite that... "he was a moron, he didnt follow basic safety rules and he fired the gun.... he should have known better than to point it in an unsafe direction"

    im getting downright tired of cops saying that the average person is too stupid to even handle guns... let alone around other people... i handle guns around people all the time... havent shot one yet... though i follow basic safety rules and i am usually at a range when im handling firearms
     
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    Someone with probably little firearm experience, 19 years old and stupid probably handling a firearm like he has seen in the movies and on tv, finger on the trigger.
    If only they brought back target shooting to schools fewer people his age would be so foolish.

    Probably raised in the city and kept away from those evil dangeorus guns, and couldn't help but foolishly and ignorantly play with one when he finaly found it in someone else's house.
     
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    Playing with a loaded gun is not reckless? Or are you saying that it might have been intentional?
     
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    Does anyone know the type of gun... I am assuming it was a single projectile irearm vs a shotgun... That means the kid got hit twice... Which leads me to think he was intentionally aiming at the kid or he has a pert near automatic firearm that shot once in the thigh and then the recoil moved the next shot to the head... Being a parent myself id like to see him get what he gave if not toss him to the dogs in the prison... I absolutely hate anyone that would endager or hurt a child... I have saw the post where they wish us not to use the word hate and such but in this instance its the way i feel... I personally would like to whip his behind provided all the information in the story is true and just and i dont mean with no paddle neither
     
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    It was probably a single gunshot that grazed or went through his leg and grazed or struck him in the head. A 1 year old is very small, and was probably crawling or laying down close to level with the gun. Perhaps on a couch or bed with the same guy playing with the gun. The shot could easily penetrate the limb of a small child and proceed to hit the head afterwards. Especialy a child in a crawling position struck from behind. The thigh and head could be along the same path from that position, and bullets can deviate from the path after striking or penetrating as well.
     
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    sure, it was stupid.
    but i don't think it was anything but an accident. fact will tell, of course, but let's hold off on burning the guy at the stake. a father accidentally shooting his own son... let's just leave it at that.
     
  10. Aguila Blanca

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    On the other hand ...

    The article did mention that the father was "visiting." Note that the mother's last name is not the same as the father's and the child's:

    I may not be reading it correctly, but it sounded to me like this was a case of unwed parents, and the mother is currently living with a different male companion (husband or boyfriend - status unknown). If the 19-year old father has been feeling the pressure of child support payments, it's within the realm of possibility (given the twisted way people seem to think these days) that Daddy decided it might be a great plan to kill his own son so he could stop the payments.

    I'm not saying this is the case, just offering an alternate scenario that could fit the LIMITED facts reported.
     
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    Or, it could be that the guy was gunning for his son's mother.
     
  12. Aguila Blanca

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    Occam's razor strikes again.
     
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    Regardless as to what crazy plots you guys may be conjuring in your heads as could be scenarios, the bottom line is that a kid got shot because his father was being careless. Terrible, terrible situation.

    I just hope the kid recovers.

    Also, if this truly was an accident, you have to feel for the father a bit. I'm not saying what he did wasn't foolish, but I couldn't imagine what he's going through right now.

    I'm just hoping for the best, for all parties involved.
     
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    "...was playing with a gun when the weapon fired...Does anyone know the type of gun...anything but an accident..." Criminal negligence causing bodily harm, up here. There is no excuse. The type of firearm or marital status is irrelevant.
    "...the average person..." Sadly he is the average person. Chances are he had never seen any kind of firearm before. Epecially at 19.
    "...the bottom line is that a kid got shot..." Exactly. Either way, negligence is negligence. There is no excuse.
     
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    I am just glad the bubble is still alive for his mother to squeeze all the air out of.
     
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    poor baby, need to be a little more safe around firearms for him.
     
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    From what is in the article it sounds like an unfortunate accident. I would think if they had evidence that he was intentionally gunning for someone the charges would reflect that. Perhaps they will be upgraded at a later date. For the time being it's a stupid accident.

    And exactly the kind of stuff the Bradys love to parade through the media.

    I pray for everyone involved.
     
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    This is another thing i didnt think of... My daughter was walking at age 1 so it was a assumption (she will be 2 in 2 months)

    My apologies for my previous comments.. I jsut cant stand when innocent children are harmed intentionally or over someone elses stupid behavior
     
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