Manurhin Walther PP

[bad_dad_brad]

I have always wanted a Walther PP, and at $250, it is hard to think you could go wrong with these, even if all you did was look at her. They are in .32 caliber. Anybody have one of these French beauties? Are they any good? They were recently reviewed positively in "Small Arms Review Magazine."

From www.centerfiresystems.com:

These Walther PP’s were made under license by Manurhin in France. They still have the original arsenal markings. Includes (2) 8rd original magazines, decocker safety, brown grips with manufacture stamp, shoulder holster and original Walther Box. These former German Police guns are still in excellent/new condition. C&R eligible. •Includes: Original Box, Extra Mag, and Shoulder Holster.

Opinions?

 

[Jim K]

They are the same as the Walther PP, and a good buy at that price. Manurhin made the PP and PPK models after WWII; even some of the ones marked "Made in Germany" which were finished and proofed in Germany, were actually made in France.

Jim

 

[ACP230]

I bought one from AIM Surplus a few years ago.
It was in very good shape with brown grips that had the Manurhin name on them.
I got good accuracy with RWS .32 hardball shooting from 10 meters to 25 yards, although I had some problems using the small sights with my aging eyes. I noticed this most at an indoor range, outdoors it wasn't such a problem.
The PP also bites the hand that feeds it, at least in my case. It isn't too bad a bite, but does get annoying.
I compared the PP to a CZ50 I'd bought earlier. The PP was better finished and felt better in the hand. Both shot well, but I'd rather shoot the PP.

I have considered buying another PP at the Centerfire Systems price.

 

[Bahadur]

What is the double-action trigger pull like with these?

 

[glocksman]

I bought one of these last week.

The left arm on the cocking piece either broke after 100 rounds or it was broke to begin with (the DA pull was horrendous, so I'm leaning for it being broken to begin with).


Centerfire Systems is going to exchange the gun for another one, so I can't about their customer service.

The lesson: Inspect it thoroughly.

 

[Majic]

I had one for years and just recently got rid of it. The very early models had Manurhin stamped on the slides, the later models were stamped Walther II. It was accurate and very reliable. Mine loved Fiocchi ammo. The DA trigger pull is very heavy and due to it's design it can't be lightened much. SA is acceptable though. Depending on your hand size you have to be careful how you grip it or it will bite you if you let your hand ride up on the grip. The only reason I finally got rid of it because it has bit me so many times I stopped shooting it and it just took up space. It is a fine, well made pistol.

 

[Majic]

I had one for years and just recently got rid of it. The very early models had Manurhin stamped on the slides, the later models were stamped Walther II. It was accurate and very reliable. Mine loved Fiocchi ammo. The DA trigger pull is very heavy and due to it's design it can't be lightened much. SA is acceptable though. Depending on your hand size you have to be careful how you grip it or it will bite you if you let your hand ride up on the grip. The only reason I finally got rid of it because it has bit me so many times I stopped shooting it and it just took up space. It is a fine, well made pistol.

I have a nice lightly used fitted leather clip-on IWB holster w/ high tab for the PP if anyone wants to make an offer. It's made by a Backwoods Leather. A small shop here in Va. making holsters and belts.

 

[bookman]

I still have mine For years it was my cc pice and at times still is...
Get it you will not be sorry..

 

[444]

I have one. It doesn't run for crap. I am pretty sure the problem is the magazine but I never remember to buy a new mag. and see if that was the problem.
It is a very nice, well made gun. If the design appeals to you, I don't think you will go wrong.

 

[Mark G.]

I bought one from Centerfire. Great little pistol, super finish, accurate little shooter. Feels great in my hand. I am contemplating buying another.

 

[pinetree64]

I got mine about 2 months ago. It is a blast to shoot SA. The DA pull is heavy. Compared to my little Keltec, it has no recoil. It is easy to shoot fast and accurate. I ordered mags from CDNN and they have worked flawlessly with Blazer, Fiochi and S&B. The original mags, one worked 100% the other didn't. I do get a little hammer bite, but it is nothing. Since my Keltec is my primary CCW, I'm already shooting 32acp. I order several boxes at a time from Cheaper than Dirt. I'm looking for a ccw holster and some new grips.

tjg

 

[macavada]

I bought one from centerfire systems. The finish was pretty worn. I would say it was "good" as opposed to the advertised "excellent".

I took it out to the range, and it worked great. No problems. One light strike that didn't ignite the primer. I don't know if it was the ammo (S&B) or the gun. I ordered a spring kit for it from Wolff, although I haven't installed it yet.

Since the finish isn't so good, and it's a Manurhin, I'm thinking about getting it refinished in one of those non glare finishes for $120 and getting some checkered wood grips for it. It won't be worth what I'll have in it, but it will be how I want it.

Who makes checkered grips for the PP besides Hogue?

My dad has a couple of PPK/S's from Interarms and S&W, and my Manurhin is much better and cheaper.

Get one, you'll like it.

Marco

 

[Majic]

Macavada,
Eagle has PP and PPK grips in rosewood or ebony. You can order them checkered too for just a little more.

http://www.eaglegrips.com/regular.htm

 

[Series 70]

8-round mags? 7 was standard with the PP.

I have rosewood eagle grips for mine. They are sweet.

 

[macavada]

Thanks Majic.

Series 70:

I thought 8 rounds was standard in the .32 PPand PPK/S and 7 was standard in the PPK.

And, in the .380 7 rounds was standard in the PP and PPK/S and 6 rounds standard in the PPK.

Marco

 

[SouthpawShootr]

Just a short comment here. When dropping the hammer, do not, under any circumstances, allow it to fall forward on its own. Use the safety, but always ride it down with your thumb.

My father bought one of these years ago. Looked to be new. Awesome workmanship. I gave him the above warning and he let the hammer snap down anyway. After about 5 times the safety broke, fell out of the gun in 2 pieces, and he had to get the gun repaired (about $40, if I remember correctly and the finish doesn't match). This was a big problem with these old guns (I don't know about the newer production Interarms and S&W guns - I've always followed the above protocol for my Interarms). Fewer and fewer people know about this I've found. BTW, I know someone who shot his brother (not life-threatening) by using the safety as a hammer drop. Lots of violations here and I'm not going to discuss it. He realized how stupid it was.

Otherwise enjoy your little gun. And yes, you'll probably get bitten like the rest of us.

 

[Jaco]

Manurhin PPK in .32ACP is my primary weapon, and utterly reliable with anything.

 

[cigarman]

I concur with most of the comments here. Well-made, fairly accurate, etc.

I bought if from Centerfire and the one I received is just as the pic shows. The names of the owners/users of the pistol are on the box and it is in perfect shape. I was really pleased with it.

 

[Series 70]

macavada -

You're right, 8-round mags with the .32. Mine is a .380 and I keep forgetting about that difference.

 

[dwestfall]

When you decock, at what point does the hammer drop? On mine you have to push it all the way to the end of the lever travel area, and then push it slightly further.

 

[DMK]

I got one of these from Centerfire also. Mine is in excellent shape, it must have been hardly used. They are a good deal IMO.

dwestfall, my hammer drops just as the lever is crossing halfway over the red dot.