Marine had baby on ship in war zone

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A Marine gave birth aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Boxer in the Persian Gulf last month, marking what Pentagon officials believe is the first time an active-duty woman delivered a baby on a combat ship in a war zone.
As a rule, the Pentagon does not deploy pregnant service members to war zones. Navy regulations, which also cover the Marine Corps, require a pregnant servicewoman to notify her commanding officer no later than two weeks after diagnosis.
A Pentagon official said the Marine in this case told superiors that she did not know she was pregnant.
"She never told anybody she was pregnant," the official said. "I think she claimed she didn't know she was pregnant. The good thing was the Boxer has a complete hospital on board, so that was not a problem."
The Marine is assigned to a ground unit in Kuwait and was aboard the USS Boxer in the Gulf area when she went into labor.
Marine Corps headquarters, in response to an inquiry from The Washington Times, released a statement yesterday:
"The medical staff of the USS Boxer delivered a 7-pound baby boy on board the ship May 23 at 10:58 p.m. The mother, a 33-year-old U.S. Marine staff sergeant, is assigned to Headquarters Battery 11th Marines as an administrative chief. Mother and baby, both healthy and in good condition, were transported from Boxer to the New al Mowasat Hospital in Salmiya, Kuwait. Following a short stay, they will travel to San Diego. Names are being withheld until immediate family has been notified."
As women play a larger role in the armed forces today, pregnancy during military operations is a matter the Pentagon studies to determine whether it hurts combat readiness by leaving critical jobs vacant.
The Navy at one point in the mid-1990s experienced a 10 percent pregnancy rate for women on six-month sea tours and looked at policies to discourage pregnancies while assigned to ships.
A Pentagon spokeswoman said yesterday that she had no data on the pregnancy rate in Operation Iraqi Freedom, in which more than 25,000 women, out of the total U.S. force of about 270,000, were deployed.
Elaine Donnelly, director of the Center for Military Readiness, said the birth should spur the Pentagon to review its policies.
"I know the Marines are good at 'multiplying' the force, but this is ridiculous," Mrs. Donnelly said.
"President Bush should immediately request detailed information on deployability problems and evacuations due to pregnancy during the battle of Iraq," she said. "Today's Marine Corps and Navy cannot afford policies that subsidize and, therefore, encourage irresponsible behavior. This baby was born safely, despite obvious hazards, but childbirth aboard warships is not an acceptable situation."
The Navy adopted regulations in the mid-1990s that declare pregnancy compatible with military service. But the new policy also placed requirements on service members.
The regulations, updated in March, state: "The individual servicewoman is responsible for notifying her CO ... of her pregnancy as soon as possible, but no later than two weeks after diagnosis of pregnancy. This will help facilitate planning a request for replacement requisition if the servicewoman is in a sea going/deployable billet."
No service member can be assigned overseas after the 28th week of pregnancy, the policy says.
The rule is designed to protect the health of the mother and the baby.
Mrs. Donnelly said her research shows that there have been four deliveries at sea since women entered the fleet in 1978. None happened in a war zone on a combat ship. Two occurred in 1994 on support ships while in port.
Chesty Puller must be rolling over in his grave.
 
"I think she claimed she didn't know she was pregnant.
Help me out here, ladies, but is it remotely possible for a woman to NOT know she's pregnant with what turns out to be a 7-lb baby? I was pretty certain every time my wife was pregnant, I know that! :rolleyes:

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How large was this woman originally that she didn't know she was pregnant? I've heard of women being pregnant and not knowing it, but only in women who were so grossly overweight that they would never be fit for military duty.

On the other hand women can usually conceal the fact that their pregnant pretty well (like the Amy Grossberg/Brian Peterson infanticide in 1996 at University of Delaware). Did she think she was going to get away with something?:confused:
 
Maybe she didn't "officially" know she was pregnant becuase she wanted to stay on the ship while unoficially she knew what was going on.
 
It is quite possible for a woman to be pregnant and not know it and it is not just fat women. I know of one woman who is built like a stick who at a full nine month pregnancy goes up a whole pant size (her plumbing is tilted in such a way as the baby rides towards her back). 1st time she was preggers she never knew for quite a while as she never had morning sickness and her periods were so irregular that not having one for months was no big deal. It was during a routine drs visit that they discovered she was pregnant.

Now, that aside, doesn't the military insist on full medical exams for all their personel on a regular basis, esp since we knew we were going to war?
 
Surprisingly the babies first words were Ooh Rah. He can already do 300 pushups and is hovering around a 6 minute mile. He hasn't made Expert rifleman yet, but is hoping too around his 2nd month birthday.
 
The Navy at one point in the mid-1990s experienced a 10 percent pregnancy rate for women on six-month sea tours and looked at policies to discourage pregnancies while assigned to ships.

I lived through this crap, one of the major reasons I didn't stay in and make the service a career. Discourage pregnancy? Immediate discharge from the service.

The Navy adopted regulations in the mid-1990s that declare pregnancy compatible with military service. But the new policy also placed requirements on service members.

Thank god nobody has a Navy to counter ours, our fleet would be on the bottom.
 
They can't do that, they have to much invested in this great and grand experiment and no matter what the cost it will work and women will be on ships.

When they get pregnant they get a nice cushy shore duty job.

A job that used to go to somebody who just got done with a steady 4, 6 or 8 year sea duty rotation. Nice and fair for the career guy who paid his dues and earned a break before he starts his sea rotation again.

There is always an exception to the rule, I DID work with several good competant professional women in the service, but they were the exception and a minority of the women as a whole. You can't make the exception the rule.
 
With my first pregnancy, I just wore a size larger outfit. I was 9 months pregant and guys still tried to pick me, but I definitly knew I was pregnant! In high school, we had a subsitute teacher that taught one and had a baby the next. No you knew she was pregnant. This Marine had to know she was pregnant; the baby really kicks!
 
jeanc has a good point, with a high level of physical activity and a low body fat ratio , a womans period often becomes irregular or nonexistant. as to kicking in the late months some babys don't kick much and in a shipboard environment the odd pain and nausea is to be expected...... then there is denial .. whole new ball of wax

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it would be Draconian but perhaps a good idea to suppress the reproductive capacity of our lower eschelon military folk while they are serving.

I often hear complaints about how they cannot afford to raise a family on their pay. Well i thought they were supposed to be soldiers not parents.
 
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