Marlin 1895- TALK ME OUT OF THIS!!!
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tubeshooter
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Do you reload?
If not... take a look at the going price on a box of .45/70. That should decide for you just fine, I think.
If not... take a look at the going price on a box of .45/70. That should decide for you just fine, I think.
Sheepdog1968
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Well, the good news is that they can be hard to find if you want a particular model. I've been looking for the 1895SBL for well over 6 months and none of the local shops have it and I really don't want to buy it at a big box store. I like my small local dealers.
Marlin's quality has gone downhill since Rem bought them. Just do some research around the forums and you will see all sorts of stuff. Or better yet go handle a new marlin and then fondle a used one. Look at the fit and finish and the look of the "wood." Buy used if possible.
montanaoffroader
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Really? Talk you out of it?......
You are talking to the wrong guy because:
I can't even talk myself out of it! :banghead:
I say go for it. And don't forget the pics after......
You are talking to the wrong guy because:
I can't even talk myself out of it! :banghead:
I say go for it. And don't forget the pics after......
jayhawkfan
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Sportsman's Paradise in Eldorado Springs, MO has the Marlin 1895 SBR.
Lakedaemonian
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Buy buy buy... haha, I had to. Seriously though, those Marlins are tough, good actions.
DON'T DO IT!
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True story about look it over real well (who doesn't on a gun purchase anyway?) ...mixed reviews on Marlingtons.
If you talk yourself out of an 1895 there's always a 336
My "JM" stamped 336BL has been wonderful.
Marlinitis is very contagious...then there's the 39A, 308MX Marlin Express......etc, etc
It's probably a good thing that the 336SDG is out of my range it's like the pin-up model to me for Marlin...I'm a sucker for grey/green laminated stocks.
Sorry I'm not really helping.
If you talk yourself out of an 1895 there's always a 336
My "JM" stamped 336BL has been wonderful.
Marlinitis is very contagious...then there's the 39A, 308MX Marlin Express......etc, etc
It's probably a good thing that the 336SDG is out of my range it's like the pin-up model to me for Marlin...I'm a sucker for grey/green laminated stocks.
Sorry I'm not really helping.
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MachIVshooter
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I can't help, either. My 1895 was the second gun I ever bought, about two hours after the first on my 18th birthday. I'd lusted after one since I was about 12.
With the right load, the .45/70 can take any game animal on the planet. Trapdoor, rolling block and falling block rifles served many a frontiersman well back in the day before Marlin actions, smokeless powder and jacketed bullets that allow near-.458 mag performance. It's even more flexible today
That's entirely dependent on the load. Powerhouse 405 gr. loads at over 2,000 FPS? Yes, they get brutal in short order. But cream puff 350 gr. loads at ~1,300 can be shot all day long.
There's a reason that cartridge has soldiered on for nearly 140 years while nearly every other rifle cartridge of the era faded into obsolescence a century ago.
With the right load, the .45/70 can take any game animal on the planet. Trapdoor, rolling block and falling block rifles served many a frontiersman well back in the day before Marlin actions, smokeless powder and jacketed bullets that allow near-.458 mag performance. It's even more flexible today
That's entirely dependent on the load. Powerhouse 405 gr. loads at over 2,000 FPS? Yes, they get brutal in short order. But cream puff 350 gr. loads at ~1,300 can be shot all day long.
There's a reason that cartridge has soldiered on for nearly 140 years while nearly every other rifle cartridge of the era faded into obsolescence a century ago.
Oathkeeper1775
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One way
The only way I could try is to pass along my personal "NIB" criteria;
I never, ever, ever pay the "NIB" price for a firearm on the shelf. If they don't have an unmolested rifle in the back, still in the box, still in the bag... no deal. Not many dealers or employees like my policy, tough.
Can you emagine how many booger-pickn, ear-scratchn, frenchfry-eating,
cigarette-smokn, craper stall opening, doorknob-turning firearm shoppers that have put their hands on..............their thing; touching a firearm you might put a stock-weld on or pay full price for? Not to mention the kids....
Gag!
Mine, I named him Buster; 45-70. The rear sight folds so he slides in the scabbard just fine, shoots like a 410 lowbase, packs a nice punch.
The only way I could try is to pass along my personal "NIB" criteria;
I never, ever, ever pay the "NIB" price for a firearm on the shelf. If they don't have an unmolested rifle in the back, still in the box, still in the bag... no deal. Not many dealers or employees like my policy, tough.
Can you emagine how many booger-pickn, ear-scratchn, frenchfry-eating,
cigarette-smokn, craper stall opening, doorknob-turning firearm shoppers that have put their hands on..............their thing; touching a firearm you might put a stock-weld on or pay full price for? Not to mention the kids....
Gag!
Mine, I named him Buster; 45-70. The rear sight folds so he slides in the scabbard just fine, shoots like a 410 lowbase, packs a nice punch.
MachIVshooter
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Now that's just funny
I faced off with this very decision from a slightly different angle... 1895 or a 336?
Three things did it for me-- I won't be needing to call down artillery support on bear zombies any time in the near future. Shelf ammo is pricey and I'm not in a position to reload. I hear it eats the shoulder up after a bit, similar to playing with shotty slugs.
The 336 it is
Three things did it for me-- I won't be needing to call down artillery support on bear zombies any time in the near future. Shelf ammo is pricey and I'm not in a position to reload. I hear it eats the shoulder up after a bit, similar to playing with shotty slugs.
The 336 it is
RickMD
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I bought one new about seven years ago. It's unquestionably one of my favorite rifles. At 50 yards with iron sights it'll put 5 shots in one ragged hole. I load 350 grain linotype cast gas check bullets at 1700 - 1800 FPS and it's a pleasure to shoot. This is coming from a guy who has two racks full of high quality bolt guns.
It's slim and easy to carry through the mountains of western Pennsylvania and packs a real wallop. The ONLY drawback is that 405 grain bullets must be seated and crimped in the front cannelure on 405 grain jacketed bullets due to overall cartridge length limitations of the action. If you choose to load to maximum velocity with heavier bullets it'll hurt you, particularly off a bench. In a real hunting situation you'll never notice the recoil.
Where I currently live I find the 1895 and my 39A to be more and more my "go to" hunting rifles.
It's slim and easy to carry through the mountains of western Pennsylvania and packs a real wallop. The ONLY drawback is that 405 grain bullets must be seated and crimped in the front cannelure on 405 grain jacketed bullets due to overall cartridge length limitations of the action. If you choose to load to maximum velocity with heavier bullets it'll hurt you, particularly off a bench. In a real hunting situation you'll never notice the recoil.
Where I currently live I find the 1895 and my 39A to be more and more my "go to" hunting rifles.
Craigman
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DO it! and if you dont reload yet it just may be the deciding factor in starting......and reloading is almost as fun as shootingjgiehl
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DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!
Who wants a fast handling, fast reloading, easily packable rifle?
WHO in their right mind wants a rifle you could load down so much that bullets practically walk out of the barrel? But on the other hand who in their right mind wants a rifle with so much thump that it will kill anything in it's path?
Who REALLY wants that much versatility?
pfffffff.....I scoff at anyone who wants that crap.
P.S.
Just a joke
I love mine and I'd suggest a Skinner peep sight to go with it.
Who wants a fast handling, fast reloading, easily packable rifle?
WHO in their right mind wants a rifle you could load down so much that bullets practically walk out of the barrel? But on the other hand who in their right mind wants a rifle with so much thump that it will kill anything in it's path?
Who REALLY wants that much versatility?
pfffffff.....I scoff at anyone who wants that crap.
P.S.
Just a joke
I love mine and I'd suggest a Skinner peep sight to go with it.
SwampWolf
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I suggest the alternative: look for a Winchester Model 1886 "Extra Light Weight" repo., also chambered in 45-70 Govt. You can't find lever-actions that come much slicker than 1886 Winchesters.
dc.fireman
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Mistwolf - that's one beautiful looking rifle.DON'T DO IT!
Huh?
All I can say is that on my Elk hunt last fall I carried my 1895G through some very thick oak brush for a week. My friends with their long barreled Tikas, Remingtons, and Weatherbys were begging to swap after about the third day. I have an old Weaver K4 mounted on mine and have no issues putting a 405gr bullet anywhere I want it out to 200y.
As other have said reloading really is the way to go as it will give to the best results. Factory stuff is ok but not as accurate as my hand loads. And my hunting ammo, while near Buffalo Bore spec, is not nearly as expensive.
If you have the extra money, do not have to use a credit card and have all the bills and food covered I say go for it. The 1895 is a great rifle. I really want the Cowboy model.
Thank you. It took me awhile to track down. It's one of the LTDs and a limited production. I added a Pachmyer recoil pad & XS sights. I really like this rifle- just not from the bench!
tubeshooter
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I'd love to have one of these. Ever since I got firmly planted in the levergun camp, it's been a thought. At the back of my mind, but still there.
The ammo price, while steep, isn't as big a factor when I consider how much actual shooting I'd be doing.
Given where I live, I don't really have a practical use for one. Still would be very cool to have, though!
Just wanted to balance out my "ammo price" post from earlier (not that you needed it; I knew virtually everyone else would tell you to go for it).
The ammo price, while steep, isn't as big a factor when I consider how much actual shooting I'd be doing.
Given where I live, I don't really have a practical use for one. Still would be very cool to have, though!
Just wanted to balance out my "ammo price" post from earlier (not that you needed it; I knew virtually everyone else would tell you to go for it).
MachIVshooter
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I think this is the first time I've ever heard the .45/70 referenced with "lack of accuracy".
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