Id be happy if Marlin or Henry made a tube fed lever action in a more popular hand gun caliber like 9, .40, or .45. I only want a plinker so id want the more cheaper ammo. 30 carbine could be fun too, 7.62x54r is kinda cheap at times, well cheaper than .30-30 at least. If it needa to be rimmed would not the .32acp make a decent candidate since its semi-rimmed, I've been buying .32acp for $30 a box lately
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That's exactly what I say about my 358 winchester.
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A 16" Bbl'ed mdl. 1895 Trapper in 10 MM/.40 S&W would be sweet.
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That sound you are hearing is John Wayne rolling over in his grave at such an ugly firearm.
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I think the auto pistol cartridges you suggest are not built for lever guns because they are rimless cartridges. The extractors on auto loaders usually work with a gas op rod or some type of blow back system and the extractor is tensioned into the case when it's fired. Plus they head space on the mouth and not the rim. Your best bet for 9 mm is something like a Ruger PC carbine. I doubt anyone will ever make a lever gun for a rimless cartridge. They've always been rimmed just like revolvers with the exception of those made to run moon clips.
If you reload you can get your cost down to 9 mm commercial ammo for just about any rimmed cartridge you want to use. Honestly, I don't think pistol ammo is ever going to be as low as it was 2 years ago now that retailers know that people will pay 3x the distributors cost for a box of ammo.
While i understand there might be issues with rimless Henry does have their Long Ranger lever rifles chambered in .223 and .308 which are rimless. And if thats really an issue when it comes to pistol cartridges then .32 auto should be okay since it is semi-rimmed by design for revolvers
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Have you never seen a 35 rem cartridge? Rimless chambered in Marlin 336 since 1950.
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Yes, I've seen them. 35 Rem was developed for their model 8 semi-auto rifle, hence rimless. The 30-06 is also a rimless cartridge that was being used in lever guns in 1906. Neither are straight wall cartridges however and both head space on the shoulder, not the rim or the case mouth.
Granted, I should have said, I doubt anyone will ever make a lever gun for a rimless straight walled cartridge. So yeah, the way I worded that was incorrect but I don't know of any lever guns that's used a rimless SWC like a 9mm, 40 or 45 acp. But then I'm just here to learn.
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There are engineering variances needed for the combination of rimless and rimmed cartridges being used in tubular or box type magazines. Being bottleneck or not is also a consideration.
Yeah, 30-06 and and 308 have been in lever guns. An example for both is the Browning BLR. The 30-06 was chambered in a lever gun near the turn of the century. The Winchester 1895. Both the BLR and Win 1895 have box magazines with stacked cartridges.
The 35 Remington is the next best thing to a rimless straight wall cartridge with a very small shoulder. Since it has this shoulder head spacing is made easy in the tube magazine of a traditionally styled lever action rifle. Usually it is more simplistic to chamber tube fed rifles in rimmed cartridges such as revolver rounds, shotgun shells, and traditional lever action rounds like 30-30 and 45-70.
When a cartridge is both rimless and straight wall it must head space in the case mouth. This adds another level to reliable feeding and firing. It can be done in a lever action similarly to how it is done in an AR chambered in 450 Bushmaster or 350 Legend.
All this is to say that these lever guns already exist and are very possible. Grizzly Custom does 1894 conversions for 10mm and 45 ACP. If they can do it, a manufacturer can to. The perpetual question always is though: “Is it profitable?”
Yeah, 30-06 and and 308 have been in lever guns. An example for both is the Browning BLR. The 30-06 was chambered in a lever gun near the turn of the century. The Winchester 1895. Both the BLR and Win 1895 have box magazines with stacked cartridges.
The 35 Remington is the next best thing to a rimless straight wall cartridge with a very small shoulder. Since it has this shoulder head spacing is made easy in the tube magazine of a traditionally styled lever action rifle. Usually it is more simplistic to chamber tube fed rifles in rimmed cartridges such as revolver rounds, shotgun shells, and traditional lever action rounds like 30-30 and 45-70.
When a cartridge is both rimless and straight wall it must head space in the case mouth. This adds another level to reliable feeding and firing. It can be done in a lever action similarly to how it is done in an AR chambered in 450 Bushmaster or 350 Legend.
All this is to say that these lever guns already exist and are very possible. Grizzly Custom does 1894 conversions for 10mm and 45 ACP. If they can do it, a manufacturer can to. The perpetual question always is though: “Is it profitable?”
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Wonder if a Ruger 96 lever action could be adapted to a rimless case in the calibers mentioned. Might be possible since it’s based on a removable magazine and could accommodate the .44 Mag as one of its factory chamberings.
IMHO if Ruger does it right they are sitting on a goldmine with the Marlin acquisition/name.
IMHO if Ruger does it right they are sitting on a goldmine with the Marlin acquisition/name.
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Wow I want one just like it, very nice!
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