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Massive terrorist attack thwarted in U.K

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A SUICIDE bomb plot to kill thousands of soccer fans at Saturday’s Manchester United-Liverpool match was dramatically foiled yesterday.
Armed cops seized ten terror suspects in dawn raids.

Intelligence chiefs believe al-Qaeda fanatics planned to blow themselves up amid 67,000 unsuspecting supporters. A source said: “The target was Old Trafford.â€

The Islamic fanatics planned to sit all around the ground to cause maximum carnage.

They had already bought the tickets for various positions in the stadium, cops revealed last night.

But armed cops foiled the horrific plot - which could have killed thousands watching Manchester United’s home game against Liverpool on Saturday - in a series of dawn raids yesterday.

Ten people were arrested after a massive surveillance operation involving British anti-terror units and American authorities.

A police source said: “The plot involved several individual bombers in separate parts of the stadium.

“If successful, any such attack would have caused absolute carnage. Thousands of people could have been killed.â€

The planned attack would have had an instant global impact as the game is being televised worldwide.

More than 400 police swooped yesterday after a “major terrorist figure†under surveillance moved to Manchester. Police and intelligence organisations believe he came to direct the massacre, which would have been the first al-Qaeda-style outrage in Britain.

Nine men and one woman were arrested — all Iraqi Kurds or from North Africa.

Special Branch and the security services had been monitoring their movements and eavesdropping on mobile phone calls for months.

The operation also involved the US National Security Agency and GCHQ, the Government’s intelligence listening post.

Seven of the suspects were held in Manchester and one each in South Yorkshire, Staffordshire and the West Midlands.

It is believed all have links to extremist Islamic organisations. They were being quizzed at separate police stations around North West England last night.

But it was unclear whether any explosives or weapons had been recovered.

Bombers planning the Old Trafford massacre would have run the risk of being searched going into the ground before the 3pm kick-off.

Manchester United said away fans and those sitting in the higher tiers were frisked.

The identities and details of the suspects remained top secret last night — even to many of those involved in the operation.

One of the raids was at a flat above Dolphins takeaway in Upper Brook Street, near Manchester University. The area has a large ethnic community with many properties converted into bedsits.

Irfaan Arif, who lives in a nearby flat, said: “I was woken at 4am, looked out of the window and saw a lot of armed police. There was loads of banging and shouting.â€

The three-storey Dolphins building was cordoned off along with next-door properties housing AK Computers and Funky Fones.

Forensic experts in protective clothing moved in after the initial search teams.

A police spokesman confirmed: “A number of search warrants were executed under the Terrorism Act 2000. Ten people have been arrested on suspicion of being concerned in the commission, preparation or instigation of terrorism.

“We appreciate the public interest in this but are unable to provide more specific details at this stage.â€

Greater Manchester’s Assistant Chief Constable Dave Whatton said: “It was an anti-terrorism operation that has been going on for some time and it will continue in the future.

“This is the first action that the public have become aware of as it is overt. It is set against the background of an increased threat level across the country.

“The addresses raided will continue to be searched for some time. It is a complex inquiry.â€

And he appealed: “Because of the national heightened threat levels we would still ask people to be vigilant and report any suspicious activity to police.â€

Sheikh Mohammed bal Qadri, deputy director of a mosque in Upper Brook Street, said he did not believe any of his members were among those being held.

He added: “Since September 11 we have been very vigilant, as mosques should be.

“If I see a person who is new, I ask him why he is here and what he is doing and ask these kind of questions.

“We are against these evil acts. In the religion of Islam we have tolerance.†The raids follow revelations last week that police in Manchester had raised their terror alert level.

More than 50 officers were moved from regular duties to work on a task force committed to combating terrorism.

Police have also conducted detailed surveys of land around Manchester Airport to identify sites which could be used to launch missiles attacks on aircraft.

Manchester Central MP Tony Lloyd said yesterday: “Clearly this is one of the most difficult levels of policing. But when police get the information to act sccessfully the whole of the British public will applaud their actions.â€
 
Allright!!!

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Yeah...Baby!
 
The BBC and ITN are not quite on the same songsheet.

...Newspapers reports claimed the 10 being held under anti-terror laws had tickets for seats scattered throughout the stadium

Representatives of Manchester United denied speculation their grounds may have been specifically targeted...
BBC link

...United insist they were not aware of any impending threat despite newspaper reports suggesting that ten people arrested in police raids yesterday all had tickets for Saturday's game with Liverpool - raising the possibility of mass suicide bombings...
ITN link

We'll have to see how this one unfolds.
 
Interesting, two major terrorist attacks foiled in the same week, Jordan and the UK.
 
It's just a matter of time until a big one is successful. Then we'll see how much longer this "open borders" policy lasts.
 
Hope you're not right Riley.

If Man U vs Liverpool was the target then big attendance, packed stadium, ten different blast locations and possibly some major panic (hopefully not on the scale of the Hillsborough disaster) - would have been a big one.

Again all speculation for as far as I am aware there is no definite news that Man U was the target. My suspicion is with these b*****ds that what they would have done would have been detonate one or two to get the crowd panicked and then detonate the rest in the mass packed crowds trying to escape. Speculations of the morbid kind.
 
What is the mood in GB with regard to foreigners, especially from the middle east? Who is in control of Parliament, the Tories or Blair's party?
When is TB up for re-election?
 
Who is in control of Parliament, the Tories or Blair's party?
When is TB up for re-election?

To over-simplify a bit: Blair wouldn't be PM if his party wasn't in power. He isn't elected as Prime Minister per se, but as just another Member of Parliament. If his party wins the majority of seats in a parlimentary election, barring unusual party shake-ups he stays as PM. Most likely scenario to end his premiership would be him winning his seat in parliament but his party as a whole losing to the Tories. 3-way splits and coalition governments and so forth are possible, but seem to be way uncommon.
 
The short answer:

http://www.britannia.com/gov/gov4.html

The long answer is that the UK has a democratic form of government with a "constitution" that is largely unwritten, a monarch as head of state with no power, and a legislature with a PM as head of government that acts with what we would consider "real" executive authority.
 
(hopefully not on the scale of the Hillsborough disaster)
If they had detonated 10 bombs, I think the Old Trafford disaster would make Hillborough look like a carnival ride. It would probably be even worse if your scenario had played out. Old Trafford can hold probably twice the amount of people as Hillborough, if I'm not mistaken.
 
Riley - yeah we elect a party (based on constituency MP's) and the leader of that party is PM. No Presidential-style election. Labour is in at the moment.

Dannyboy - I meant that hopefully post-Hillsborough the changes that have been made to stadiums would mean that the scrimmage wouldn't kill as many people as died there. The bombs are another matter of course.
 
Intelligence chiefs believe al-Qaeda fanatics planned to blow themselves up amid 67,000 unsuspecting supporters.

Nine men and one woman were arrested — all Iraqi Kurds or from North Africa.

Nope.

No connection.

Bush wrong again.
 
You want to escalate the WOT-blow up a futball tournament!

Can you imagine the carnage as every drunken, enraged, hobnailed soccer hooligan in the British Isles was released onto the streets of Fallujah?


Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Makes my hair stand up just thinking about it.







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Seriously, good catch.
 
the Old Trafford link was broke by the Sun newspaper, which is not really regarded as a shining beacon of truth (and even if it was, there is no way they would have allowed a leak of this kind given the massive prejudicial effect it would have on any trial).

drjones it may have passed you by but the vast majority of Iraqi Kurds are on our side.
 
Ag's right there drjones. Certainly no love lost between Saddam and the Kurds.

And of course there has been no confirmation yet of what the intent of the arrested was - and that is making the huge assumption that they are guilty at all, innocent til proven... and all that.
 
Noow there's a good idea!

"Can you imagine the carnage as every drunken, enraged, hobnailed soccer hooligan in the British Isles was released onto the streets of Fallujah?"

yep. a great idea. i'd like to have the movie rights to that one.

rr
 
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