Match champion, cylinder slightly off axis

[anothernewb]

Just picked up a new match champion, and noticed something. If you rotate the cyliner (okay spin) it wobbles slightly on it's axis. as if the shaft is bent, or the cylinder was machined just a hair off. It's not really noticeable unless you really wing the thing, but it isn't as perfect on it's axis as say, my other GP 100. I have yet to run a feeler gauge between each chamber and the forcing cone however, to forestall any questions about gap.

just looking for thoughts. haven't shot it yet, and I know the LGS would make good on it if I showed them it, but it takes them a rather long time to get replacements from their distributor if I had them order a new one for me.

Sorta musing if it's going to make a real world difference in shooting, or if I'm just being too anal.

 

[edwardware]

I'd call Ruger, and be surprised if you don't have a return label in hand by close of business.

 

[Varminterror]

Contact Ruger. Be ready to drive to a local FFL in a couple weeks.

 

[buck460XVR]

Somebody else play with it before you got it? Slamming the cylinder shut is a good(and easy) way to bend the rod......

 

[Hondo 60]

I've found Ruger's customer service to be excellent. Give 'em a call. They'll email you a prepaid return label.
Just box it up & send it off. Most likely you'll have it back in a week or two.

 

[357 Terms]

Shoot it....

may be just fine, I have a GP100 that has an uneven gap between the crane and the frame, I have seen all kinds of threads over the years regarding this, the gun shoots great!!!! One of my best shooters.

 

[DWFan]

Don't shoot it. A cylinder that doesn't line up properly with the barrel invites bullet shaving, forcing cone deformation and excessive side blast. Contact Ruger.
Aren't each one of these supposedly test-fired by the factory?

 

[357 Terms]

New
Don't shoot it. A cylinder that doesn't line up properly with the barrel invites bullet shaving, forcing cone deformation and excessive side blast. Contact Ruger.
Aren't each one of these supposedly test-fired by the factory?

I must have missed something. ...

The cylinders don't line up with the barrel???

 

[kidneyboy]

Shoot it....

may be just fine, I have a GP100 that has an uneven gap between the crane and the frame, I have seen all kinds of threads over the years regarding this, the gun shoots great!!!! One of my best shooters.

Don't shoot it. A cylinder that doesn't line up properly with the barrel invites bullet shaving, forcing cone deformation and excessive side blast. Contact Ruger.
Aren't each one of these supposedly test-fired by the factory?

The internet is the most awesome place for advice...............

 

[Varminterror]

If the cylinder is out of true, it is entirely possible chamber-to-bore alignment may be off. Depending upon why it is misaligned.

I check every revolver I buy with range rods. If I found one with a caddywhompus cylinder, I’d damned sure be checking it before firing.

 

[Got_Lead?]

Maybe they sold you the one I sent back. I had the same problem, I sent it back, and they sent me a different one. Contact Ruger

 

[anothernewb]

took a video, called ruger, and their response is that it appears within spec. Going to shoot it for a bit and see how it does.

 

[Jesse Heywood]

took a video, called ruger, and their response is that it appears within spec. Going to shoot it for a bit and see how it does.

I've read other reports of Ruger customer service on that gun. The ones I read had guns returned with no changes and notes saying the gun was within spec. One guy had sent his gun in 3 times. Poor for a target gun that goes for a premium. If it shaves bullets, send it back and tell them if they won't fix it you want a refund.

 

[kidneyboy]

I've read other reports of Ruger customer service on that gun. The ones I read had guns returned with no changes and notes saying the gun was within spec. One guy had sent his gun in 3 times. Poor for a target gun that goes for a premium. If it shaves bullets, send it back and tell them if they won't fix it you want a refund.

Anecdotal evidence presented on the interwebs. (sigh!) ..... could you post a link to these reports?

 

[HB]

Anecdotal evidence presented on the interwebs. (sigh!) ..... could you post a link to these reports?

For what its worth, I sent my sp101 4” in for work. The cylinder gap was so tight it would lock up from heat or fouling after a few shots. The barrel was so poorly rifled that it looked like a zip tie inside rather than smooth lands and grooves.

They fixed the gap but sent a test target back and said nothing could be done about the barrel as it was “in spec”.

I sold the gun as soon as I could. It leaded so horribly that lead “worms” would appear after a few shots. Copper fouling was just as bad.

Never again.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

For what its worth, I sent my sp101 4” in for work. The cylinder gap was so tight it would lock up from heat or fouling after a few shots. The barrel was so poorly rifled that it looked like a zip tie inside rather than smooth lands and grooves.

They fixed the gap but sent a test target back and said nothing could be done about the barrel as it was “in spec”.

I sold the gun as soon as I could. It leaded so horribly that lead “worms” would appear after a few shots. Copper fouling was just as bad.

Never again.

I've had a SP101 in 357 mag for about a decade or so, and it's been a great gun. Then I bought one of the 22lr versions when they came out a few years ago. Rough chambers, a slightly canted barrel, and the need to crank the rear sight really far to the left to hit where I wanted pushed me to sell the gun also. I've heard some other reports of SP101 issues in the last few years. Yet other folks are reporting good quality guns in recent production. I wonder if they just have a problem employee or two.

 

[HB]

I've had a SP101 in 357 mag for about a decade or so, and it's been a great gun. Then I bought one of the 22lr versions when they came out a few years ago. Rough chambers, a slightly canted barrel, and the need to crank the rear sight really far to the left to hit where I wanted pushed me to sell the gun also. I've heard some other reports of SP101 issues in the last few years. Yet other folks are reporting good quality guns in recent production. I wonder if they just have a problem employee or two.

Like most modern/successful/still existent companies, they know that its cheaper to fix it later. If they had extensive QC their margins would shrink or guns would be priced out of their market.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

Like most modern/successful/still existent companies, they know that its cheaper to fix it later. If they had extensive QC their margins would shrink or guns would be priced out of their market.

Yep. It's just a bummer.

 

[357 Terms]

The internet is the most awesome place for advice...............

Lol, that's your contribution?

So you get on the Internet.....complain about responses on the Internet, and then contribute nothing to the subject on the Internet. (Sigh)


OP...
Shoot the Ruger, I'm sure it will be fine.

 

[kidneyboy]

Lol, that's your contribution?

So you get on the Internet.....complain about responses on the Internet, and then contribute nothing to the subject on the Internet. (Sigh)

OP...
Shoot the Ruger, I'm sure it will be fine.

My comment is an observation, not a complaint.

 

[357 Terms]

....and like I said, nothing of a contribution.


As for observing, OP, can you post the video you sent to Ruget?

The Match Champion has a tapered-contoured cylinder, it will look a little different from your other GP, this may be what you noticed in comparison to the your other Ruger.

 

[Zendude]

Factory QC seems to be where most cost cutting is done today for most brands. It’s just the way it is now. I don’t consider an initial trip back to the factory to be out of the ordinary anymore, so that way I don’t get angry when it happens as long as customer service is good.

 

[anothernewb]

I actually deleted it, but I can whip one another one tonight.