Maybe I don't belong.

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Related & funny anecdote...

I have to admit that, while I hate being judged, I love some of the things that happen because of it.

I used to have a management position in the computer industry for a major corporation and I was to over see a "job fair". I pulled into the parking area on a '58 Pan wearing leather, jeans, boots, etc. As I walked in, I heard some of the comments made by potential employees.

I changed into my business casual as I always do when I ride and prepared for the long day of screenings. I cannot describe how amused I was by the end of the day as jaw after jaw dropped when some of those that commented took a seat in front of me in my office. All but one of them tried to brown nose their way out of trouble and into a job. Fortunately, the one most qualified was not one of those that made comments as I entered the building.

Bottom line, I know what I am and who I am. If someone wants to flame me, fine. They have that option. However, there are soooo many others here that make it easy to forget whats-his-name and I-forget.

Stick around. Sometimes its fun watching the flamers spout uninformed rhetoric and sink themselves.

Berek

PS: I forgot to mention that I fly colors. But I didn't have to be a terrorist or thug to earn them.
 
lol

sorry folks, this is gonna sound irreverent - but hot damn there's a lot of shoulder-punching group hugging going on around.

didn't know all you pistol packing blokes were such softies at heart ;)

that said, my town is literally overrun with christian bikers for jesus - they look just like hell's angels until they ask you to join them in a prayer circle.
 
I refrained from commenting on the other thread because I felt that the original poster was just showing his ignorance. I also thought I wouldn't be very diplimatic with my response. I don't consider myself a "biker" but a "motorcycle enthusiast", instead. Stick around. I'm sure some of these less open-minded people will benefit from some of your posts....whether they know it's coming from a biker or not.

My Current Inventory:
2002 Ducati 748
1998 Ducati ST2
1985 Harley FXEF
1992 Husqvarna WXC-360

Wife's - 1994 Suzuki GSXR-750

I've been in 44 states, two Canadian Provences, and into Mexico while on two wheels. You never know when this gun-toting "biker" may have been next to you at a red light. :what: :neener: :D
 
Hey, if I'm willing to stick around, despite all of the venom cast at prosecutors who are out to convict you, no matter what, and take your guns for their personal collections, then I'd appreciate the company of you dirty biker types. ;)

Stick around. Trust me, the fun is worth the rare aggravation.
 
Don't care what you ride.
Don't care how you look.
We can't know unless you tell us.
There are plenty of idiots with limited backgrounds combined with limited intellects here and if you let them freak you out instead of calmly showing them that their bigotry is unfounded we're all the poorer for it.
 
The Tourist said:

I try to be a Renaissance man in my interests and my dealings with others. I am/was a white collar worker, I have been a mechanic, I am a gun collector and reloader, I am a Christian, a husband, a neighbor and I now work in the service industry (where manners and decorum ensure repeat business.)
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if you stay or go is up to you but:
i too am/was blue collar worker, white collar worker, gun collector & reloader, a christian, a husband(father too), i hve never been in an organized biker club but i have ridden and partied (in my younger-wilder days) with past and current members of the vietnam vets club of san antoino tx. i'm 45 and have only been offended by comments directed at christianty and about flag burning. of those only the flag burning has caused me to place one person on my ignore list. a preacher from australia once told me you got to eat the meat and spit out the bones, seems it might be good advice here.
 
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Don't leave. We talk mean about liberals, too. :D

I've known good bikers who looked so disreputable that most people would cross the street if they saw them. Heart of gold type people that would do anything they could to help their fellow man-biker or not.

I've known bikers who dressed like lawyers or doctors, rode $50k machines and were only slightly lower than a snake in the grass.

I can make a similar statement for any group of people that I've ever dealt with--teachers, cops, ditch diggers, OTR truckers, cops, bank clerks or whatever.

Blow off the stuff you don't care for, ignore those who deserve (in your opinion) to be ignored and take from here the wealth of knowledge it offers.
 
FWIW, hang around, but quit yer bitchin.... :)

Seriously, you had your tantrum and a mod Pm'd you. That's the way it works. You adjust to their way of thinking or find a place that suits you better.

As for bikers...
I worked for one that owned a nice respectable paint shop. Most talented guy with a brush or sprayer I've ever seen. In the middle of the night he repainted new Mercedes and other expensive cars...

My biker friends all enjoyed the rough attitude and scaring the crap out of regular people, women and children included. At the time I thought it was "cool". I now have a wife and kid, I no longer think it is "cool". Two weeks ago a RUB scared the crap out of my wife in a parking lot after work by racing up to her on his bike.

As teen, I was with a group friends that were honest to god attacked by bikers armed with guns and knives. Case of mistaken identity. But heck, since they drunk/high and armed, and we were not, they beat the crap out several of my friends while holding me and fiance at gunpoint.

Don't be offended if you get hard looks from me because you are a "good" biker, it may take me a second or two to figure that out.
 
Reminds me of the identity theft ads that MasterCard used to run.

On the leftside, there'd be a picture of a rough-looking biker. Long, grey beard and 'stache, bandana, leather jacket, arms folded over his chest, and a angry scowl on his face. Caption below read: This is You.

On the rightside, there'd be a picture of a skinny, clean-cut office guy in a white shirt and blue tie, with a friendly smile on his face. Caption below read: This is the Jerk that stole your wallet.

Gotta admit that MC has a pretty good ad department.
 
LawDog said:
*snort*

You think being a biker here is tough? Trying being a cop around here.

LawDog
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LawDog is right on. I've been PM'd by a polite but firm (fair enough) moderator regarding my sarcasm on some LEO threads around here. Hey that notion that gun owners are paranoid survivalist hunkered down in their basement waiting to fight the U.N. invasion has to come from somewhere....and I don't think this board is special, we have some real idiots here....in case you read this and wonder if you are an idiot a good indicator would be that you just got pissed off reading this post.:evil:

On that note, our moderators do an exceptional job keeping things civil here and I believe that Tourist is righteous to be angered when people talk about grabbing thier guns when a biker looks at them....THAT'S PLAIN STUPID FOLKS!!! More lawyers own harleys than gangsters. More gangsters own cadillacs then lawyers....so I suggest if you get paranoind, you start whippin' your piece out on caddies....of course lot's of old folks drive caddies to...So why don't you just calm down...have some hot chocolate over a Sterno in the basement and wait for the U.N. with your AR on your lap.


Note: I fully anticipate a "be good or else" from our polite but firm (and fair) mods.;) But you gotta admit...you smiled when you read this post.:D
 
alduro said:
More lawyers own harleys than gangsters. More gangsters own cadillacs then lawyers....
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Ummm.... do I detect a bit of redundancy there? A comparison with a greater degree of difference might be more effective.

:D
 
alduro said:
On that note, our moderators do an exceptional job keeping things civil here ...
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+1 on that note.

I am consistently appreciative of having moderators on this forum, and sing their praises as often as I can for the great job they do for no pay. (Except for the monthly checks I send them under the table to let me stay on the forum...<wink, wink> :D )

I've never been on a moderated forum of any kind before. These folks - men & women - have a tough job keeping all us routy, diverse, often disagreeing (at times even disagreeable) people from getting too crazy without squelching our rights to speak freely.

Moderators, I commend you. <Raises glass in salute>

Nem
 
'64 XLCH, restored, lightly chopped and mine.

Don't sweat the occasional biker comment.

On the other hand, if you want more flak, just argue in favor of 9mm...:evil:
 
Stick around, Tourist. I've known more than a few bikers over the years, and they all fly in the face of the media stereotype. They include two ministers, numerous philantropists, and one guy who was my only hope in my first year of recovery and saved my life.

Bikers cling to a very specialised sort of individualism, and they wear it on their sleeves (and many other places) for all to see. You're bound to attract attention, and yeah, there are some ignorami out there who'll buy into the stereotypes they've been fed. You'll find that those sorts are usually bigots in other areas of their lives as well.

It seems that no matter how many good deeds bikers do, no matter how many charitable causes they spearhead, there are always some that only think of the 30-year-old Altamont stereotype. So be it. Those types also think that guns turn normal people into mass-murdering psychopaths.
 
Let not the foolish ignornce and stereotyping of others lull you into a false sense of unwantedness.

Stay, for your opinions are valuable in their own right.
 
I'm not a biker but I'm an ardent motorcyclist that currently has a stable of 7 streetbikes ranging from Italian and Japanese sportbikes to a BMW adventure-tourer and a couple vintage bikes.I've encountered the " you ride a motorcycle so you must be a scumbag" attitude a few times and of course I've had the usual reactions of "you're going to get killed on that thing,they're just nothing but dangerous" but I do my best to present the good,safe and courteous face of motorcycling just like I like to be a good example for gun owners.The great majority of people I know through riding are also into guns on some level or at least have the same libertarian streak that understands the ownership reasons behind them or can appreciate the mechanical design even if they don't own firearms themselves. I don't like being referred to as " a biker" as that's not who or what I am but I know many,many,many "bikers" and while they do their thing I prefer to not have any part of that lifestyle as it doesn't offer anything I want or enjoy.I wear a full face helmet and ride gear not because I'm planning on falling anymore than I CCW because I'm planning on a gunfight though I do enjoy a "spirited" riding pace. I don't ride to make a statement or to look like a badass and I don't think that loud pipes save lives.The chopper/biker culture is far more mainstream these days than sportriding or touring.Your dentist or accountant is far,far more likely to don a vest and chaps on weekends than to carve corners or do a trackday and everybody knows who Jesse James and the Teutels are.Face it,you've got a large portion of Harley/cruiser owners who thrive on the badboy/outlaw image and eat it up but most people who are seen as "bikers" are just ordinary people who put on the costume on weekends and their neighbors know better when they see "bikers" these days so it's losing its effect.
 
Heh... reminds me of the HOG rally this past summer here in Manty. Sat outside a friend's tattoo studio, watching the bikes go by. Seemed like most were either middle or upper management types: RUBs. And while outlaws have some (at times deserved) nasty reps, they also are the types to hang together (and I've had more help from 1%ers than any other group)...
 
Hey Bro',
Don't let it get to your head. I happen to ride a Harley Road Glide, Shoot and eat four legged animals in season and am a Black male to boot. There have been a few ignorant threads posted that could get to me if I really gave a flip.
Where are you going to go in life where you don't find a few low flyers? Just do what you enjoy and leave the critics behind to swim in their own crap. Consider them what they are, low life cowards that hide behind a computer monitor. I never get the negative comments in person. I don't guess 6'5" and 250 45acp packin pounds has anything to do with it. :rolleyes:
 
I had a mohawk last summer. I've been known to be a nice guy on rare occasion, too, despite a tendency to look very "serious".

It was my right to cut my hair as it was, and I certainly didn't do it to frighten anyone, but I also was aware it would put some people off.

When my girlfriend's car was bumped by a young man with a different racial composition than I, and I jumped out of the car, wearing a bolt through one ear lobe and a sleeveless t-shirt (I think I was wearing camo pants, too), I saw the stunned, horrified look on his face. Maybe my quick, friendly assessment and admonition that it was fine, not to worry might give that young man reason to take a wee bit longer to judge.

At the same time, I would have been at least "guarded", as well.

So, you can't always judge a book by its cover, but initially, all we have are impressions. We work with what we're given, but we need additional inputs. Needless emotionalism is just that.

John
 
Shucks. You might as well stick around and see what goofy thing will happen next.

Between my Kia Sportage, my 20 hp "Bass Boat", my Hi-Point and Kel-Tec pistols, and now my Yamaha Majesty Scooter, I don't get no respect on either car, boat, gun or motorcycle boards. :what:

But I stick around anyway. :neener:
 
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