McCain, Graham Warn GOP May Be in Trouble

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Is McCain running next year?

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/11/21/D8E1450G1.html

With the war in Iraq, higher energy costs and breakneck government spending, the GOP faces a tough round of congressional elections in 2006 unless things change, two key Republican senators warned during a campaign appearance.

"I think if this were not an odd-numbered year, we would have great difficulties," said U.S. Sen. John McCain of Arizona.

McCain and fellow-Republican U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina were interviewed by The Associated Press when they stopped here Sunday night to campaign for Republican state Attorney General Henry McMaster.

"But we can recover," McCain said. "Reagan recovered. Clinton recovered. We can recover."

The party must show "progress in Iraq, we need a comprehensive energy package and we need to stop this profligate spending," he warned.

"If the election were tomorrow, we'd be in trouble," agreed Graham, who said the party must work to cut spending.

"If we really want to do well in 2006, we need to have fiscal discipline like Republicans campaigned on," he said. "We have lost our way as a party. Our base is deflated and taxpayers don't see any difference between us and the Democrats."

Graham said the party has to again reach the voters.

"You don't have to stop being conservative, you got to start connecting," he said, adding "we need to adjust and if we don't adjust, we're going to be in trouble."

The party, he said, must be honest enough to admit that things aren't going as well as hoped in Iraq.

"Democrats who have this cut-and-run strategy _ the public doesn't want to follow that. They want to follow Republicans who understand the war is not going as well as it should but who understand that our security is better off with a successful outcome in Iraq," he said.

The message in Iraq, McCain said, "is we are making progress, we have to make progress and we regret the loss of every single young American. But the benefits of success are enormous."

McCain has been mentioned as a potential Republican presidential candidate in 2008. He said he will not make a decision on a race until after next year's elections.

McCain, looking at Graham, told the crowd of about 100 people that "some people have said this might be a very attractive vice presidential candidate."

The crowd clapped and whistled. Graham simply smiled.
 
McCain is a prima donna of the highest (lowest?) order.

He wants to scare Republicans into making him the presidential candidate. But what, exactly, would he give us over a Democrat? (Of course, we'd have to know WHICH Democrat, but that's true on all sides)

I think it would be GOOD for the GOP to be in trouble. They've betrayed us in many ways.

But under the current circumstances (Democrats seem to be owned by the radical left), the GOP is the lesser evil, and yes I mean evil.
 
Tell me one thing the GOP has done to make them worthy of holding office.

I hope the Dems run Gov. Mark Warner for their presidential candidate. I've never voted Dem in my life, but I'd vote for him.
 
I notice mccain didn't mention doing anything about illegal immigration. oh well I guess the dems are going to clean house next year then.
 
spartacus2002 said:
Tell me one thing the GOP has done to make them worthy of holding office.

John Bolton. Best thing they've done by FAR. The Democrats would be licking Koughing Annus' toes right now.

John Roberts.

Tax cuts.

Pollution credit trading.

They've left many things undone, and they've done damage. But it's frightening to think how much more the current crop of Democrats want to do, and do deliberately.
 
I thought it interesting that both these Senators are part of the "gang of 14", the guys who really run the Senate. Stating what the GOP should be doing, when taken in their Senate context, seems like a direct indictment of Bill Frist, someone McCain may be running against in a presidential primary.

Lindsay Graham (R-SC) is one of my Senators. I am usually proud of anything he has to say. He is at least highly rated on gun issues and speaks out against antigunners.
 
ArmedBear said:
John Bolton. Best thing they've done by FAR. The Democrats would be licking Koughing Annus' toes right now.

John Roberts.

Tax cuts.

Pollution credit trading.

They've left many things undone, and they've done damage. But it's frightening to think how much more the current crop of Democrats want to do, and do deliberately.

John Bolton I might give you, but the others? Roberts is a guess until we see some of his rulings. Tax cuts are good if you happen control spending of which the republicans are making the Dems look like golden childs. The US had nothing to do with Pollution credit trading because we did not ratify the treaty, and due to them, we will be producing more CO2 in the future than we do now.

Simply put, the Republicans owned two branches of the goverment and still have failed. There is no excuse. They need to go.
 
mccain gets the nod, i'll vote AGAINST his ass. i'll not stay home, i'll not vote independent, i will vote Democrat. even if it means hillary. he isn't any better anyway, so the dems might as well get the blame for whatever trainwreck hitlery causes.
 
MrTuffPaws said:
John Bolton I might give you, but the others? Roberts is a guess until we see some of his rulings. Tax cuts are good if you happen control spending of which the republicans are making the Dems look like golden childs. The US had nothing to do with Pollution credit trading because we did not ratify the treaty, and due to them, we will be producing more CO2 in the future than we do now.

Simply put, the Republicans owned two branches of the goverment and still have failed. There is no excuse. They need to go.

The deficit is dropping, or do you just read the Chronicle?

The biggest problem is pork, and neither party is tackling that.

What about looking at ditching the incumbents who are the worst? The party isn't necessarily the problem, either way. Parties just run campaigns.
 
RealGun said:
Anyone want to comment on the actual article, or is it just taken as an opening to bash somebody?

As if those few words are all John McCain has ever said?

What he said simply reflects what pundits and bloggers have been saying for a long while. Read Instapundit for more links than you can shake a stick at. These ideas are not new, and they're not his.

Sounds to me like he's trying to identify himself with changing the GOP's direction, i.e. he's starting to campaign. That's about it.

What he says is right. And I guess it's good that someone in Washington is saying it rather than sticking his head in the sand. But there's not much more to say about it that hasn't been said.
 
Maybe in trouble... You got to be kidding. The GOP is sinking faster than Titanic. I doubt they will hold an majority in Washington by 2008.
 
John and his lapdog Lindsey need to look in the mirror to see why the GOP is in trouble in 06...

RINO's!
 
cbsbyte said:
Maybe in trouble... You got to be kidding. The GOP is sinking faster than Titanic. I doubt they will hold an majority in Washington by 2008.

If you look at the approval ratings polls, the Democrats are sinking at the same rate. So the results are anybody's guess, and depressing either way, for those of us who wish we could vote for someone good rather than someone less terrible, for a change.

Massachusetts is no indication; it will vote for a Democrat anyway, and whether he gets 51% or 99% of the vote doesn't change anything in DC. Kerry and Kennedy are two of the biggest slimebuckets in the Senate, BTW. If you vote for those two over and over, then what Democrat wouldn't your state vote for? (Same for my state, with Boxer and Feinstein, both of whom are nearly insane, and Boxer is stupid, to boot).
 
sarge83 said:
John and his lapdog Lindsey need to look in the mirror to see why the GOP is in trouble in 06...

RINO's!

Convince me that Lindsey Graham is not a real Republican.
 
Oh yeah he is also a blessed member of the Gang of 14. Seven of which are backstabbing liberals with (R's) in front of their names.
 
Graham may well be the best politican in the senate. Don't know if that's a compliment or indictment, just an observation. He ran as a solid republican in a southron republican state. He also managed McCain's campaign last go'round. Since then he's an understudy of McCain, a maverick in training so to speak. He may well end up on a McCain ticket but I'm not sure that would play well in SC. At a minimun I see him positioning himself to replace McCain as chairman of the Senate commerce committee, the single most powerful position in the senate below majority leader. The Maverick's--John and Lindsey--act plays well in a closely divided senate. Increase the take of one side or the other and the value of being a maverick drops to nothing. Graham is too astute to get himself out of position.
 
ArmedBear said:
The deficit is dropping, or do you just read the Chronicle?

The biggest problem is ENTITLEMENTS, and neither party is tackling that.

What about looking at ditching the incumbents who are the worst? The party isn't necessarily the problem, either way. Parties just run campaigns.

Corrected for you grasshopper. 1.5 trillion (entitlements) a year plus about 300-400 billion (interest payments on nearly 10 trillion dollar nat debt) a year is the big problem with this country. You could cut all the entitlements and all of the iraq war nonsense and we would still be buried.

We need to kill:
social security
medicare
medicaid
disability
food stamps
welfare

and then we will BEGIN to be back on track. In 20 or 30 years we might actually have climbed out from under the mountain of debt.
 
beerslurpy said:
Corrected for you grasshopper. 1.5 trillion (entitlements) a year plus about 300-400 billion (interest payments on nearly 10 trillion dollar nat debt) a year is the big problem with this country. You could cut all the entitlements and all of the iraq war nonsense and we would still be buried.

We need to kill:
social security
medicare
medicaid
disability
food stamps
welfare

and then we will BEGIN to be back on track. In 20 or 30 years we might actually have climbed out from under the mountain of debt.

Do you not recognize that these programs are not there to "help" anyone?

They exist in order to buy votes with Other People's Money.

That's Pork. I agree with you, but I don't draw the same distinction.

The strategy of the Federal Government: Take too much money. Dole it back in return for votes. Doesn't matter if it's a bridge in Alaska or the promise of free drugs for the AARP.
 
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