Meadville-area militia leader admits having illegal guns

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Meadville-area militia leader admits having illegal guns
Tuesday, February 01, 2005

By Torsten Ove, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


A Meadville-area militia leader and gunsmith who advocated armed revolt against the federal government pleaded guilty yesterday in Erie to possession of illegal machine guns.

Darrell W. Sivik, 57, of West Mead, Crawford County, who operated a low-power FM station called "Braveheart Radio" in a shack behind his gun shop, was the last in a group of men convicted in an investigation of homemade machine guns in northwestern Pennsylvania.

Sivik admitted selling a gun to an undercover agent for $300 and another to Charles Bilunka, 60, of Atlantic, Crawford County. Bilunka is head of Christian American Patriot Survivalists, a militia outfit that agents said was training members to kill police officers in preparation for the end of the world.

Bilunka pleaded guilty in August to possession of unregistered firearms, land mines, a machine gun and a modified SKS rifle.

Agents said he was stockpiling weapons for the second coming of Jesus Christ, which he predicts will happen in 2009, and Armageddon, slated for 2012.

Agents said Sivik, who refers to himself as a "patriotic Christian American," ran another group called the Braveheart Militia, which was stockpiling weapons at a Forest County hunting camp for its own showdown with the government.

He was well-known in the Meadville area for his anti-government protests, one of which featured the burning of the U.N. flag and display of U.N. helmets with bullet holes. Among his many views, Sivik held that the United Nations was out to strip the United States of its sovereignty and take away Americans' rights.

He also has spoken out against everything from the Patriot Act to the tax system and often complained about threats to the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms, which he said secures all other civil liberties in America.

Sivik was released from jail for heart bypass surgery in the summer and was on house arrest pending trial in federal court in Erie.

The case against him and Bilunka started Jan. 12, 2004, when an undercover officer wearing a wire met with Bilunka at his house in Atlantic. At the time, Bilunka said he had a machine gun in his basement that he had bought from Sivik.

Bilunka told the officer that he bought the weapon, a "burp" gun of the type first developed in World War II, from Sivik so he wouldn't have to register it with the government.

When the undercover officer asked Bilunka if Sivik needed an existing gun to make a machine gun, Bilunka said: "No, I think he might even have a few."

On Feb. 20, the officer and Bilunka went to Sivik's shop. Out of earshot of other customers, Sivik talked with Bilunka, and then all three went outside to discuss the sale of the machine gun for $300.

Others charged in the case were Terrance Willaman of Cochranton, Crawford County, who was convicted last fall of possession of an unregistered machine gun; and Chester E. Morrell and Daniel F. Morrell, both of Conneaut Lake, Crawford County, who pleaded guilty in the fall to possession of a belt-fed machine gun.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05032/450807.stm
 
While I disagree with the law he broke, I certainly believe that anti-government loonies who break gun laws don't exactly make the cause look any better.
 
He will now be charged with tax evasion and selling contraband

without having a license:cuss: I wonder what would have happend if he only had possessed them and didn't sell any, if this would be like the stewart case in the 9th :confused: As nuts as they say the guy was, I don't see any crime commited with the contraband items, where is the harm? Oh yeah possession of an item invariably means you will one day use it in a crime:rolleyes: Like the large collectible knives I have will make me flip out and go ninja on the postal carrier one day :uhoh:
 
Too bad these goofballs didn't find out about the tinfoil hats - could have saved them a lot of hassles.
 
anti-government loonies who break gun laws don't exactly make the cause look any better
Just for discussion, what did people call the boys that tossed tea in the harbor and shot at redcoats?

Upon introspection, it seems that the "loony" in question and I might have similar views, only he's more committed (no pun intended) to them. So where are we drawing the line as to what makes you a "patriotic christian american" vs. an anti-government loony? Breaking laws? Colored people used to be segregated by law. So that made it ok, or were those laws ok to break? If we show that there are or have been laws that should not be followed, then suddenly every law becomes a grey area. There are people in this country (like the guy in question) who feel that they have no obligation to obey unconstitutional (in their view) laws, be they gun laws, race laws, religion laws, etc. IIRC, there were a bunch of guys in Boston that didn't care for the tax laws that were foist upon them. Those anti-government loonies are now on our currency, in stone monuments, etc.

It's all dependant on your perspective.
 
What?!

Just for discussion, what did people call the boys that tossed tea in the harbor and shot at redcoats?

To compare these lunatics to the founders of our country is an insult to our Founding Fathers.

Training members to kill police officers in preparation for the end of the world?

The UN is "out to strip the U.S. of its sovereignty and Americans of their rights?"

C'mon ...
 
OD,

You might be right that you shouldn't compare the two groups, as the Founding Fathers revolted over something so shallow as money and these "loonies" fear for our national sovereignty and our personal rights. You can't really compare those two, can you?

Like I said, it's all about perspective. I can find plenty of people to line up and roll their eyes at your opinions, too. I'll even find a bunch that will consider you a "loony" just for being a part of a pro-gun forum. Oh, the horror...

I personally like how you jump right on the media bandwagon with the report that they were "training members to kill police officers in preparation for the end of the world." You don't suppose that could have been "training to repel international 'peacekeepers'," do you? Again, you or the media might call the bluehats "police", and he might call them "invaders to his sovereign soil."
 
I'm sorry ... call me obtuse ... but I simply cannot find it in myself to believe that there is an organized movement within the United Nations to take over the government of the United States ...

I'd further submit than efforts to train to repel "international peacekeepers" is preparation for a state of affairs than can never, and will never, happen in this country.
 
The "US is Eternal" mindset.

Same ol' news flash I always give: Nothing lasts forever, including the United States of America.

What were the Founders called? Exactly what these guys are called. And are these guys somehow more wrong than the Founders? Only because they lost...
 
Why will it never happen?

Because citizens won't allow it?

What do citizens have to back up their opposition? Guns?
 
I'm sorry ... call me obtuse ... but I simply cannot find it in myself to believe that there is an organized movement within the United Nations to take over the government of the United States ...

Like most people we tend to forget that WE are the government. Those that people are talking about revolting against are elected officials. The problem is that we have forgotten over the past few decades that they work for us, not the other way around.

That said, blaming elected officials for abusing their power is like blaming baseball players for making so much money. People are people, they will take whatever you let them have. The fault lies with us, the government, for letting those we elect get away with whatever they want to do. It is us who got lazy and just let them handle it "as long as it doesn't effect me".

The organized movement by the UN to take over the states isnt in the UN. The UN will never take power from the US. The movement is here, in America. The UN won't have to take any power if it is handed over to them.
 
Sorry, but this guy deserves jail time. Want to know why? Before I tell you and make it so damn obvious that it illustrates just how so many have no clue, I am going to rant slightly. :cuss:

I get sick of hearing about people like this. They want to or promote armed rebellion against the feds? Fine, do so in a proper fashion. No one these days seems to have a damned clue in how to do so properly. The guys who do this are idiots and comparing this guy or anyone similar to our Founding Fathers or the patriots of the Second American Revolution disgusts me to no end. :cuss:

Now then, to answer the question. You want to rebel against the feds? Fine, then rebel against THEM, not the police. The police are granted power by the STATE, NOT the feds. The police are NOT your enemy. The state police are NOT your enemy. When you fire on or attack the police but claim you are rebelling against the feds, you are foolish and deserve to go to jail or be executed. When you start doing that (firing on any law enforcement authority) you are advocating anarchy and I guarantee you that modern-day patriots (such as myself) would assist the police in apprehending you.

Pay attention closely for those who have romantic wishes of armed rebellion but are too ignorant to understand how to even organize it in a respectable manner. Yes there is such a thing as respectful armed rebellion...a prime example were the Confederate States.

First, name who you are rebelling against. The feds? Ok fine, rebel against all federal agencies and such like the IRS, ATF, FBI, etc.

Second, stick to your plan. If you start saying "well we need to rebel against the police too" you're just writing your own jail sentence. You'll be labeled an anarchist or domestic terrorist...and they would be right in that label.

Third, make your statements very plain that you have no quarrel with the state. Inform the police chief or sheriff that you don't want any trouble and you won't do anything to harm his men etc, etc. Inform them who you are dissatisfied with.

Fourth, if possible as this would greatly help, try to get uniforms made for every person in your group to clearly establish yourselves. You think it's a stupid idea? No it isn't. The police wear uniforms and so do many other law enforcement agents from all kinds of departments. Look at all sorts of nations throughout history and how those that stood with them dressed. What do you know...they wore uniforms!!

Disclaimer: By this post I am not advocating armed rebellion against the feds nor any other law enforcement agency. I am not responsible for anyone's actions as a result of reading this post and formulating your own ideas.
 
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So the "police" don't enforce the law? No local sheriff ever hauled someone in for the IRS, etc? If you've decided to take a stand against "Agency X" and the local yokels come calling they aren't your enemy? Just there to share some coffee, right?

And uniforms? *sigh* OK, whatever.
 
Okay guys, whatever. Y'all wanna keep busy preparing for armed conflict against your local sheriff's offices and PDs, go for it. Just don't call me to post bond for you.

Me, I think I'll just stay active in local, state and federal politics, legally lobbying my elected representatives and keeping my area's media on its toes with my informed, concise and witty letters and e-mails ...

Eghtysx had one thing right. We ARE the government. But there are better ways to change our government, if we don't like the direction it's going, than collecting illegal firearms (not that I agree with those firearms being unlawful) and protesting the "bluehats."

And yes, I do have the "U.S. is eternal" mindset. Unlike some of you, I have faith in the durability of our Constitution and the overall collective good of the American people to prevent the need, ever again, for an armed rebellion. Does this mean I don't get worried about threats to our Constitutional rights and civil liberties? No, you're damn skippy it doesn't ... simply that I do believe that the U.N. is not the threat to our country and way of life some of you apparently believe it is ... and I don't believe we'll ever get to the point where we're gonna voluntarily turn the keys to the Capitol over to the U.N., either ...
 
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Agents said he was stockpiling weapons for the second coming of Jesus Christ, which he predicts will happen in 2009, and Armageddon, slated for 2012.

Now, if you knew that Jesus was coming and that Armageddon was not too far off, what is the point in arming yourself for those events? Seems to me that Jesus won't be stopped by a bullet, and a rifle isn't going to stop armageddon.
 
laws

Where to post or where to start ,whew !
Training to kill police officers etc? Seems ole G.Gordon went on the air with that oner several years past. What about just training to kill?
Reminds me of all these billboards I see GUN CRIME IS JAIL TIME!
What of just some good ole fashioned crime ?
I have grown to dislike conversations and discussions like this.
To some it is so obvious what is illigal,and the others is just the opposite.
I need to read up on this one and more cases like this, Hope the disscussion here provides some new and reasoned insights..
We are a divided country and our community is divided. But pro 2nd RKBA folks aint all good or whatever,does not mean i can tell em not to own item a or z. Do you always obey the written laws? Any way I hope no one was hurt on this one.
Any one have some links on subjects like this?
 
And yes, I do have the "U.S. is eternal" mindset. Unlike some of you, I have faith in the durability of our Constitution and the overall collective good of the American people to prevent the need, ever again, for an armed rebellion.

OK, I do have to clarify this: The United States is going to last for whatever remains of human history and never will corruption or greed or avarice or invaders force our hands here on US soil? That's what you're saying? An absolute?
 
Ah, 2A ... I'm talking about having some faith here ... I have learned to never say "never," but I do have faith that our form of government should last until such time that governments and laws are no longer necessary, for whatever reason.

I'm really addressing this idea that our form of government, our way of life and our present Constitutional rights (which guarantee the civil liberties some take for granted) are in danger from the United Nations.

Frankly, I think that some folks give the UN a bit too much credit. I've seen this organization in action in a couple places, and I'd have to say, it's not effective enough to usurp the authority of our three branches of government and the governments of 50 states ... (and three territories and I can't remember how many protectorates, though I've been to Majuro, and I think the UN could probably take over that island).

As far as corruption, greed, avarice or invaders "forcing our hand" (I presume you are talking about the need for armed response on the part of the general citizenry), well, I grant you, the corruption is a problem, but invaders ... probably unlikely. As I said, gotta have some faith in the American people. But then, I've always been an incurable optimist.
 
what did people call the boys that tossed tea in the harbor
They weren't called anti-government loonies, they were anti-government drunks. Why exactly is the Boston Tea Party portrayed so heroically? It was silly.
 
I was with them up till "jesus is scheduled to make an appearance in 2009" which seems at odds with caring about the UN or about oppressive govt action. I mean, if Jesus shows up and starts walking on water in 4 years, who will care what the UN is doing?

For the sake of consistency, a crazy person should stick to either political conspiracies and rebellion or to the jesus/armageddon angle. Having the two together just doesnt make sense. Either the government/UN needs to be overthrown for the sake of freedom and our children's freedom, or jesus is coming and we need to amass firearms to a) "help with tha killin" or b)"shoot him before he unleashes the apocalypse." You cant have your cake and eat it too.

And the other moral of this story is to not have friends that will blab to strangers about you having machine guns for sale in his basement.
 
And I've always considered myself a realist. I don't believe mankind is ever going to reach some Utopian level where government and law become unecessary. That's just not human nature, which is a beast that is unlikely to change at any fundamental level. I do however believe we could, possibly, maintain a happy median with necessary minimum government and maximum possible individual freedom.

Problem is, the world is literally full of people who are never happy with what they have. They like power and control. It doesn't require conspiracy to allow them to royally screw things up for the rest of us. Just put enough of them together in one place, douse liberally with cash and there you go. This is why the UN appears as such a danger to many. In its current form it's a basically incompetent nest of petty bureaucrats. But add the right people, and the right ambivelence from everyone else, and what better foundation is there available for invasive control from one centralized authority?

Point being, it's better to be overly-cautious than ignore it till it's too late.
 
2A, I totally agree with you here:
I don't believe mankind is ever going to reach some Utopian level where government and law become unecessary. That's just not human nature, which is a beast that is unlikely to change at any fundamental level. I do however believe we could, possibly, maintain a happy median with necessary minimum government and maximum possible individual freedom.

And here:
Problem is, the world is literally full of people who are never happy with what they have. They like power and control. It doesn't require conspiracy to allow them to royally screw things up for the rest of us. Just put enough of them together in one place, douse liberally with cash and there you go.

But:
This is why the UN appears as such a danger to many. In its current form it's a basically incompetent nest of petty bureaucrats. But add the right people, and the right ambivelence from everyone else, and what better foundation is there available for invasive control from one centralized authority?
I just can't see it. Really, for now, I believe we're in far more danger (from outside) from some nutcase leader (see North Korea, Iran, OBL, et al) getting a hold of some loose nuclear devices (see former-USSR, etc.) and using 'em ... And from within, I believe that our technological advances have far outpaced our knowledge and abilities regarding use of the technology in conjunction with our society (particularly with respect to the 4th Amendment) ... These are the areas where I believe caution is dictated.
 
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