Meet Joaquin Jackson

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Neal Knox was KICKED OFF the NRA Board because he publicly opposed the watering down of the McClure-Volkmer Act. NRA took out many of the key provisions of the act in an effort to get it passed and Neal spoke out against those compromises. For that he was (illegally) kicked off the Board.

Ranger Jackson said;

"I think these assault weapons basically need to be in the hands of the military and they need to be in the hands of the police, but as far as assault weapons to a civilian, if you… if you… it's alright if you got that magazine capacity down to five rounds."

So machineguns are OK for civilians as long as they only have 5-round magazines?

This reminds me of Mr. Heston's comments that, "AK-47's are inappropriate for civilian possession." and the subsequent NRA spin that Chuck was talking about full-auto AK's.

I like Jackson, but he was wrong when he said this and he is wrong when he tries to weasel his way out of what he said. If he was going to try to fix it, he needed to say that he was just flat wrong when he said it, not that we can't understand plain English. This was HIS mistake, not Ours.

Jeff
www.FirearmsCoalition.org
 
If a member of the NRA's BOD is no longer supporting the 2nd Amendment in it's original wording and intent then it is time for that idividual to leave. We cannot compromise on this. He obviously has. Call/email/write the NRA and complain. He needs to step down. Plain and simple. Couple his thoughts with Romney's, "I support the 2nd Amendment and I support the Assault Weapons Ban." and we as firearms owners are in for a very bad time. We need a strong, dedicated NRA as a whole. We cannot allow this cancerous mentality to spread to other BOD members.
 
Is there anything we can do to insure that someone who is more absolute in their beliefs gets nominated next time around? I like Nugent's philosophy, and I'm glad he's on board. I'd like to see Jackson replaced with a member who sees "EBRs" as just "BRs"... someone who shares our RKBA ideals, wears a suit and tie to meetings, and doesn't curse... a little more "curb-appeal".

Someone like Oleg Volk would be awsome.
 
H. Joaquin Jackson’s term does not expire until 2010. I am not entirely sure if there is a mechanism in place for NRA members to initiate removal of a Director consistent with bylaws. I have gone through the bylaws before, and language concerning membership initiated recall confuses me. Bylaw Article IX, Removal of Association Officials by Recall states the following.

“Notwithstanding any other provisions of these Bylaws, any voting member of the Association or any organization member (“sponsor”) may in a single petition call for the removal of one or more officers, Directors, or members of the Executive Council, in the manner hereinafter provided.”

As I said, though, this language is contained in Article IX, Removal of Association Officials by Recall. I do not believe all Directors are Officials.

Now, I do believe the Executive Committe can "Remove a Director, with or without cause".

ETA
If you are not an NRA member, I question whether your opinion on whether he should stay or go even matters.
 
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I guess I watched a different video and read something different

I guess I watched a different video and read something different

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These are reported on good authority to be words in response by the man; I can't vouch for them myself but I believe them - the NRA-ILA response may or may not have been by the PR people who are running the NRA these days - and may or may not reflect Mr. Jackson's own words and thoughts.

Thank you for your letter reference my interview with Texas Monthly on T.V., which was approximately 2 and one half years ago, but the time does not matter. I would like to explain, I was on this show for an interview in reference to my book One Ranger that had just been published. I never got a chance to finish my answer, I was never asked a question in reference to my book, but about the NRA, and police work. I tried to explain but was cut off at the end of the interview. First I would like to make it clear that when I speak of Assault weapons, I am talking about full auto's, which I believe is the correct definition of them. I did not get to explain that not only the Military and Police should have full auto's but that law abiding citizens with permit should and can have them in any magazine capacity. I believe this. Reference to magazine capacity, what I tried to explain and never got the chance is that for hunting rifles, semi-auto of any make, and the person is hunting game that he would and should not have over a 5 round magazine, if he needs more ammo than that to kill a deer, wild hog or what ever then the is a very poor shot and should have instructions if he plans to continue to hunt game, also that is my opinion and I am also aware that if he wants to go into the field with a 20-30 or 40 rd. magazine that is his right.I have used the M-14 as a Ranger with a 20 round magazine and it was one of my favorite weapons. I served 36 years as a State Police officer, 27 of them as a Texas Ranger and I took an oath to uphold and defend the constitution of these United States,, I feel my obligation as a NRA director is the same and I will continue to do this If it should cost my life and that came close a few times during my career. I read your Who gave you the right, and It holds the truth. Thank you for your service to the NRA as a director and to this Country. I apologize for not making myself clear on that T.V, show but some times you get waylaid, if I ever go on another public talk show, I will demand the questions before I sit down. Again thanks and I hope this clears things up for you. I will be talking on the NRA radio when I go to Va. next month and try to clear all this up.
Joaquin Jackson

Certainly nothing by Mr. Jackson then or now has been used to argue against our rights. I don't think given the response there is any harm from the original interview - no harm no foul. I have not seen any use made of the interview or the expansions and corrections for any purpose but to bash the NRA without useful alternatives.

I don't have a problem hunting with a plugged shotgun - actually I use a double - limited to 2 cartridges in 12 gauge and I've even felt comfortable with a double limited to 2 cartridges in .30-'06. I'd not feel undergunned hunting deer with a Garand and a 5 shot limited enbloc clip. I would object to being denied an 8 shot enbloc clip for all other purposes.

I thought Gary "Sam" McNeil, the resource biologist for Idaho Fish and Game was right when he suggested a hand held shoulder fired rule for hunting rifles to eliminate the very real game waste associated with trailer mounted .50 Brownings. I objected to the weight rule which eliminates some of the old black powder buffalo rifles as used by Elmer Keith himself - but I don't accuse any of the good people who passed the weight rule of being anti-gun or traitors to gun rights. If I could afford one I'd own a Barrett today but I wouldn't complain at being denied the right to plink live game animals at a mile.

Then too I've got a Colt 6920 which I might well use short a couple of cartridges in the magazine (28 in a 30) and a 1911 I might limit to 7 cartridges - and I've not been shy about saying 7 for social use, 8 for games.

Cincinnatti was a group effort - there were for example lots of people out of Illinois and the ISRA - Bob Kukla and Les Fields had as much microphone time as some better remembered names. Perhaps a reminder of how much can be accomplished when people don't care who gets the credit.

My wife and I had a long talk with Max Rich and at that time and place he just didn't get it - saying that everything at the Convention was follow the money; it wasn't for most of us but it may have been then and after for many - but not all - of the leadership.

Somehow by Seattle the membership was willing to give up membership control in favor of letting somebody else fight the good fight. Thomas Jefferson had some useful thoughts on the need for ongoing struggle - leadership comes and goes but das buro steht immer. What Jerry Pournelle calls the Iron Law of Bureaucracy -
In any bureaucratic organization there will be two kinds of people: those who work to further the actual goals of the organization, and those who work for the organization itself. The Iron Law states that in all cases, the second type of person will always gain control of the organization, and will always write the rules under which the organization functions.

Given current stories in the news I am reminded of G. Ray Arnett at the NRA and I don't know but what some people since have been worse.

I don't know what happened to the spirit that gave us Gun Owners Action League and all folks from Florida who gave us so much success there and then became leaders who backed off from a fight and killed microphones and argued about wireless communication and organization at meetings. I know at the state and national level I see weak organizations fighting for credit not for gun rights.

It may well be that Neal Knox would have led the NRA no better than some folks of equal credentials who did. [I know his writings as much as anybody's remind me guns are fun] Perhaps others could have and should have picked up Mr. Knox's quite pertinent observations and done something more than he was able to do.

For people who have issues with the NRA I hope they are active in their local club and their state association and all the other places where it's easier for one voice to be heard.

In any event the better response is not name calling but as Joe Hill said - Organize.
 
NRA board members are handpicked esp. for their backgrounds AND their ability to positively represent the NRA and its goals.

Nope.

Since the purge of all the Neal Knox Directors from the NRA Board (which was successfully completed by 1999), the sole criteria for nomination to the Board (and listing in the BIG AD across from the annual ballot has been unquestioning loyalty to Wayne LaPierre and complete lack of any desire to question what the staff does. The current NRA Board does not lead, it rubber stamps what the staff has done. Neither intelligence, knowledge, or judgment are required to show up and do as you're told. Note all the actors and politicians ("friends of Wayne") and ex-cops (like Joaquin Jackson) who are on the Board. Note how few, if any, knowledgeable, experienced state gun rights activists are now on it.
 
Years ago I was a member of the NRA along with many of my friends. We were young and only went with a yearly membership. All but one,myself included, never renewed our memberships because we felt the the NRA no longer spoke for us. With the advent of the internet and email we became aware of what was going on behind the scenes with the Board of Directors.

To us it seemed to become an old boy network and what you read in the NRA magazines was only what the board wanted you to hear. The NRA seems to have forgotten that the 2nd Amendment is not about hunting or sporting use.
 
What are you for?

Speaking of Neal Knox I remember when he talked about hearing on the Hill that the NRA was a bunch of aginners. Against this and against that and for nothing.

It's not enough to be against Joaquin Jackson for the NRA board - it's an empty board that would have no one against it. Better to find a candidate to support than merely to curse the incumbents.

It's not enough to bad mouth the NRA as it is today. Better to make the NRA worthy of support or find or make another organization worthy of support.

The NRA has been sincerely praised, as I think of it, by Bill Clinton for efforts affecting the nations Capital. On the national level the NRA has done a great deal - consider the national sunset of the ugly gun and standard capacity magazine rules - although there is plenty of history to learn from.

These boards are full of people who write that the NRA didn't descend full of sound and fury and solve their local problems

- Californians who want to own anything from off-list Olympic target pistols to sword canes and like JonLuc Picard ask the NRA to make it so

- Chicagoans who once believed the old story that the Firearms Owner Identification Card - a certificate of good character - would be the last obstacle for decent people to own handguns in Chicago - that nothing more could be asked of honest people.

Wonder why I don't see rants from the folks about how their own state association in California or Illinois, or anywhere else, has let them down?

Maybe because the folks who are griping don't know about and don't think of the state associations first. The state associations are full of good people working as hard as they can for all our rights and getting no respect in their own states.

Be nice to have a national association working in Washington D.C. that really is an umbrella association over all the state and local efforts. Again as Jon Luc says let us all make it so.

Patron member of the NRA but not always proud of it.
 
Then there's this view...

Apparently, taking issue with Mr. Jackson's comments makes you part of the other team:

http://nrawinningteam.com

A lot of people want to difuse this by indicating NRA board members are elected. This is true, and that's fine, but I don't know how that makes any of this less serious. Sure we can vote against him in the next election, but some folks seem to believe that we knew what we were getting the first time around...

I'm an NRA Life Member, and I'm not very proud of that at all right now.
 
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"Apparently, taking issue with Mr. Jackson's comments makes you part of the other team"

Take it up with the site's owner. You do realize that's a privately owned site don't you?

John
NRA Patron
Member www.vcdl.org
 
"Take it up with the site's owner. You do realize that's a privately owned site don't you?"

Yes, John, I do; and I have. I never said it was official NRA doctrine.

I'm only passing on another point of view regarding this, hence the title: "Then there's this view".
 
Reading this makes me weep. From the noble Neal Knox who watched every penny he spent from the NRA to Joaquin Jackson. :scrutiny:
 
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