Mexico has 1 gun store?

[CapnMac]

bringing guns from Indiana gun shows every Sunday evening.

Wouldn'r Gary need to have something like 12 gunshows per w/e to produce the results claimed by the chicagoland illuminatti?

I remember reading that somebody had worked out the numbers, but I can't find it now. B ut is twas like 25% of every citzen in the NW Indiana would have to be selling 4 to 6 guns per week to gangsters to make the numbers work.

 

[CapnMac]

Mexico is a wonderful case study into how gun control does not work.

Dunno, for the wealthy elites, it probably works ok.
Para el ciudadano y peones . . . perhaps not so much.

 

[Palolosj]

Dunno, for the wealthy elites, it probably works ok.
Para el ciudadano y peones . . . perhaps not so much.

Why "probably"? The wealthy on top have politicians in their pocket. With poor unarmed they can be squeezed to the max w/o impediment.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

One gun store in Mexico City, run by the Mexican Army, all civilian gun sales must be approved by the Mexican Army and the lucky winner has to travel to the captitol to pick up his or her gun personally..

May be 3 million legal firearms - none in military calibers - allowed to civilians.

I'll repeat what I posted in the OFF discussion a few years back: Researcher Georgina Sanchez (Collective for Security with Democracy and Human Rights) quoted a "conservative estimate" of 15 million illegal weapons in Mexico. Another more liberal breakdown by Georgina Sanchez for a Mexican agency estimated 12 to 15 million unreidtered miltary type weapons and 40 million unregistered conventional civilian rifles, shotguns and handguns. The estimates of illegal weapons (unregistered with the Mexican government) is thus a range of 15 to 55 million.

 

[Sistema1927]

Who needs gun stores when you have Eric Holder as a friend?

 

[AlexanderA]

Who needs gun stores when you have Eric Holder as a friend?

The number of guns diverted to Mexico through "Fast and Furious" was a drop in the bucket compared to the total of illegal guns in Mexico. Let's not go overboard with the meme.

 

[Sistema1927]

Oh, poor AlexanderA, some of your compatriots think that only one gun in the wrong hands (i.e. not a government agent) is too many. But it was your buddy who illegally distributed guns, so I guess that it is OK.

It really is true that the leopard cannot change his stripes.

 

[Palolosj]

Oh, poor AlexanderA, some of your compatriots think that only one gun in the wrong hands (i.e. not a government agent) is too many. But it was your buddy who illegally distributed guns, so I guess that it is OK.

It really is true that the leopard cannot change his stripes.

It's not ok, but taking sides isn't really meaningful because the only difference between the two choices are where they want to allocate spending to. The current crew prefers Military Industrialists while previous group favored Wall Street and Banksters. There is no point bringing discourse to this forum because in the end nothing will change. The people that really run the show don't change from one administration to next. The only faces that change are the ones taking orders.

 

[ric jackson]

In the late 80's and early 90's I worked for a private security company providing armed and unarmed security guards to private, state and federal entities. We were working up a bid for a contract to provide services to the American embassy and 7 or 8 satellite offices in Mexico. I was working with a Mexican national that was a retired Major from the Mexican army. He had been on the Mexican president's security detail during the last few years of his military career. At that time he was the operations manager for a Mexican security company. He carried a 1911 which surprised me as I had heard that it was nearly impossible to obtain a concealed carry permit. He told me that because he was a retired army officer and had been on the president's security detail he received special consideration for a carry permit. He admitted that the average person couldn't get a permit, only the people who were connected or held certain high positions were able to do so.

In the early 1970s my late father was in charge of building several refineries and fertilizer plants in Mexico . We visited for a few months in summer when school was out and had a great time hunting ,fishing and shooting with the Federalies national police. Like something out of a movie Dad had a letter from the president of Mexico that said this man is a friend of the president and needed for the security of the state please render him all courtesy and assistance in my name. Had a lot of stamps and seals on it. I was amazed what happened when he flashed that paper. Once when we were trying to get back to Mexico city to catch a plane back to states we were told there were no tickets left on the train,he pulled the letter and suddenly had a private coach. My first introduction to third world countries. By the way he also carried a .45 colt revolver with no problems.

 

[AlexanderA]

Oh, poor AlexanderA, some of your compatriots think that only one gun in the wrong hands (i.e. not a government agent) is too many. But it was your buddy who illegally distributed guns, so I guess that it is OK.

It really is true that the leopard cannot change his stripes.

I'm not trying to excuse "Fast and Furious" -- just trying to put it into perspective. Who are my "compatriots"?

 

[hps1]

Mexico witnesses 94 firearm homicides a daycompared with the 30 to 33 firearm homicides daily in the U.S.”

How can that be. Everyone knows the US has the highest murder rate of any country in the world and two or three planets to boot. Don't believe it, just watch the news and/or read the newspapers.


Regards,
hps

 

[theotherwaldo]

I don't know for sure about how those guns and that ammo winds up in Mexico.
I do know that it is very hard to find guns or ammo in non-military calibers at gun shows or sporting goods stores here in the border strip.
Also, it is amazing how many cars with Nuevo Leon, Tamaulipas, Coahuila and San Luis Potosi license plates are parked outside of these shops and shows... .

 

[I6turbo]

I always love comparing and contrasting Phoenix, with the best firearms freedom laws in the country, with Chicago, with some of the worst. Phoenix has .60 population of Chicago, (1,644,177 to 2706171), and less than a quarter the murder rate, 157 to 653, respectively. The rest of AZ has the exact same laws so the "surrounding communities" BS doesn't fly either. Try again Chicago, the wind in the Windy City is spewing from her cheeks.

It's funny (as in ironic) that all these places that are NOT Chicago (such as Phoenix) but are likewise surrounded by towns and cities and states where one can legally acquire a gun, yet those places aren't disaster areas for murder and mayhem like Chicago is. Seems like the PEOPLE are the source of the problem, not the absence of gun laws. I guess the gun control politicians are just hoping Americans are stupid enough not to notice that their arguments don't hold water. Not yet, but I'm afraid we're getting there.