Crunker1337
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Hahaha, armor-piercing pistols, grenades, and assault rifles are all highly illegal in the use to make or own, let alone export.
'Cop-killer' guns from US seen crossing into Mexico'- Boston Globe
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StuckInMA
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This is obviously a misprint. We all know that gun control laws stop this kind of stuff.
I bet this person used one of those "assault laptops" to write this. Must have been a straw purchase too because it's obvious he didn't take any kind of training course.
Wonder if he held the laptop sideways while he typed it?
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ServiceSoon
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“The SPP is based on the principle that our prosperity is dependent on our security and recognizes that our three great nations share a belief in freedom, economic opportunity, and strong democratic institutions.” Does anybody else think this will fall under the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America’s www.spp.com influence?
Continuing legal individual firearm ownership is a public relations battle. We can mock and joke these reports, but the opposing side is gaining ground. The average American who reads this news report has been exposed to the negative side of private firearm ownership and will support further restrictions on our RKBA.
Continuing legal individual firearm ownership is a public relations battle. We can mock and joke these reports, but the opposing side is gaining ground. The average American who reads this news report has been exposed to the negative side of private firearm ownership and will support further restrictions on our RKBA.
Prince Yamato
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Not really. In fact, the antis have been losing quite steadily.
Wes Janson
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Am I the only one who is seriously skeptical that *ANY* Mexican police officers have been killed by criminals using Five-SeveNs? First off, where are they getting the restricted, AP ammo from? And secondly, there seems to be a fair amount of professional hesitation regarding the 5.7x28 cartridge's stopping power. What are the odds that half a dozen officers have all suffered fatal wounds from a 32 or 40 gr projectile moving at +-1,500 fps, after penetrating body armor? Without even a single surviving officer with non-fatal wounds? Riiiiiight.
Ragnar Danneskjold
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Wes, "stopping power" and lethality are not the same thing. Though the Five-seveN might not prove to be an immediate stopper, it is still a bullet, and can still kill. A .22lr might not stop right away, but they certainly cause their fair share of deaths. It is possible, given Mexico's substandard state of medical care, that one who would normally survive such a weak round, would die in Mexico.
Of course, that is all theoretical. In reality, the writer of the article likely just made stuff up and has no idea what they are talking about.
Of course, that is all theoretical. In reality, the writer of the article likely just made stuff up and has no idea what they are talking about.
Why the 5.7? There's several military bases around were the illegal's migrate through... you know how much M885 Green Tip ammo is scattered through Yuma AZ ! That stuff may be old and tarnished but it'll bust through level 3 body armor, better than some 5.7 pistol round.
Why in the world would anyone smuggle weapons from the US were they cost an arm and a leg to buy and have a paper work trail. AK-47's can be had in most countrys for less than $50 brand new with magazines and enough ammo to start a mini war. In South Africa an AK-47 and 2 full mags of 30 cost $6.oo.
2x Mexico, secure your northern border and you won't have this problem?
Instead of destroying all these drugs we caputre, the DEA should sell them to other countrys, and 21 foot cement wall, with Constantina wire, land mines and flood lights. Come over the wall and DIE a sign will say, in 24 different languages.
KC for president 2032!
Why in the world would anyone smuggle weapons from the US were they cost an arm and a leg to buy and have a paper work trail. AK-47's can be had in most countrys for less than $50 brand new with magazines and enough ammo to start a mini war. In South Africa an AK-47 and 2 full mags of 30 cost $6.oo.
2x Mexico, secure your northern border and you won't have this problem?
Instead of destroying all these drugs we caputre, the DEA should sell them to other countrys, and 21 foot cement wall, with Constantina wire, land mines and flood lights. Come over the wall and DIE a sign will say, in 24 different languages.
KC for president 2032!
Black Adder LXX
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Sounds like mexico needs tighter gun laws. If there laws against illegally coming and going across the border and illegally buying guns and bringing them back, this would all just go away...
Sounds like the US and Mexico need a divorce...
Sounds like the US and Mexico need a divorce...
So these guns are either illegal or from straw purchases. If they are in quantity and due to the latter, you would think the ATF could figure something out about that. Otherwise, I have doubts about what they are saying.
I have to laugh also that they mention fragmentation grenades along with those guns like they are available down at the local gun show.
I have to laugh also that they mention fragmentation grenades along with those guns like they are available down at the local gun show.
SoCalShooter
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We've done it before with other countries...
It's much more roundabout than that. We ship weapons to South Vietnam in the 1960's, which are bought by the Sandinistas in the 1980's, so that they can show them off and pretend they were only dropped once by the Contras, the weapons spend twenty years filtering their way north up the isthmus, and then show up in Mexico. Hey, an American assault rifle! Where did this come from? Well, Mexico's forces buy most of their hardware imported from the U.S. and Europe.
States that can't secure their police and military armories against corruption and theft are perpetually griefing that the vendor nations they bought their weapons from are piping them straight to the opposition.
States that can't secure their police and military armories against corruption and theft are perpetually griefing that the vendor nations they bought their weapons from are piping them straight to the opposition.
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