Michigan- Island Lake - The Anti's are Outnumber us.

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I received one reply thus far.

It was from Representative Chris Ward.

It was polite and cordial but one sentence seemed a bit strange. He wrote,
It has never been my intention to completely close any portion of the
shooting range.
What does this mean? Does it mean he has the intention of partially closing some portions of the range? You can see the email I sent to him (posted above) and I did not indicate that he intended any such thing. I suppose he may be leaving wiggle room for compromise later. What do you make of it?
 
Portions of the range?

The only thing I can make of this is someone is thinking of shutting down the rifle range while retaining the shotgun courses.

Regads.
 
Or the other way around. Since the shotgun ranges are privately operated maybe they would be easier to close. They are also open later during the summer, they may try to make them close at 4:00 or 5:00 pm whenever the rifle range closes. They would stink too as it's nice to be able to shoot after work.

We need to continue getting the word out to fellow shooters (oustide of this board) to speak up.
 
Man, that's a damn shame, I come up that way often. I'm in Howell about twice a month and that's a nice area up there.

I'll fire off some e-mails for you guys but I doubt my Ohio address will be much help.
 
Attended Brighton Twp. meeting..3 other gunnies..3 antis, who apparently attend each meeting and make their case..a long drawn out affair reaching back to the master plan developed in 1974..presumably before the spokesperson was born.

Another one tomorrow..Green Oak Twp...if anyone can show up and support us, it would be very appreciated..the township boards are hearing a lot from the other side.
 
Well, I mailed a few letters, but couldn't make it to the meetings. Where is Green Oak township?

How did Wednesday's meeting go?

Regards.
 
Same three antis, plus a new one..me and Dawn Matti on our side.

Green Oak is in Brighton, also. The range is actually in Green Oak Township, the complainers live in Brighton.

Seems there is just a small group of them but they make sure to attend everything.

Meetings are 1st and 3rd Tuesdays (Brighton) and 1st and 3rd Wednesdays (Green Oak.) I'll make as many as I can, but its just about a 80 miles from home and makes for late evenings. I'm going to shoot for 2 a month.

The whole thing will be won or lost with the DNR but public perception and township perception has an effect there, too.
 
Back to the top..new meetings next week..Brighton Twp. on Tuesday, 7:30, and Green Oak (also in Brighton) on Wednesday, at 7:00. The Brighton meetings seem to go very quickly..the Green Oaks meetings take forever.

There is also an NRC meeting in Lansing next Thursday at 4:00 (I think..I'll have to check exact time/place.) This is where the decisions get made and we need to show our strengths there.

Anyone catch the article in the local paper about the range?

Wiegand gung-ho to stop gun noise
DAILY PRESS & ARGUS

Jenness and Rick Wiegand weren't naive when they began searching for a home in Livingston County in 1991.

They knew the county was growing, so it was important to pick a place where development wouldn't envelop them. They wanted a peaceful place to raise a family and enough acreage so Jenness could continue a hobby she loved: riding her horses. They found a home in Brighton Township on a dead-end road. It abutted Kensington Metropark.

They paid a premium price for the dilapidated home on 15 acres and threw themselves into fixing it up. They soon had a beautiful home and a fenced riding area surrounded by trees and tranquility. It was perfect.

Until the shooting range moved in.

The Island Lake State Recreation Area shooting range opened three years ago in Green Oak Township next to I-96, less than a mile from the Wiegands' home. They say gun noise from the range has become excessive and prevents them from enjoying the outdoors.

As the noise grew, so did Jenness' frustration and anger. She stopped riding her horses because it became dangerous since the animals were getting spooked by the gun noise. She decided she had to do something. Jenness, now a mother of five children, admitted she knew very little about local government and had never been involved with government issues. It didn't stop her from becoming a community activist.

"I didn't know what a township was," said Jenness, who grew up in metro Detroit.

Jenness called the Department of Natural Resources (DNR), which oversees the state park. It took her two weeks before she found the right person. She talked with him for 45 minutes but didn't get anywhere.

"There's nothing I could do about it," Jenness said was the response. Although that message became a theme often repeated by government officials, Jenness didn't give up. She kept calling and calling, climbing the ladder of the DNR until she reached the top.

Meanwhile, the noise grew louder in 2003 and was heard more often.

"I just went out of my mind," she said. It only made her more determined.

"I called everyone, and every single person told me there was nothing I could do," she said.

Jenness found plenty to do. She and her family printed up fliers about the noise and distributed them to local homes. They soon started getting calls from other neighbors upset about the noise.

Starting last year, Jenness and her husband began attending and speaking at township board meetings, explaining the issue and asking for help. Their cause didn't involve only them. Jenness and Rick would bring all their children, ages 3-12, to the meetings. It's a tradition they continue now. They've also attended DNR meetings in Lansing.

Although some folks wouldn't feel comfortable bringing young children to public meetings, the Wiegands do. Their children behave well. They also believe their children are learning about government.

"They see us standing up for what we believe is true," Rick Wiegand said.

Jenness said her husband has been very supportive. She said Rick has stayed up late many nights getting information on the issue by going on-line. She also said other residents have been very active in the shooting range issue.

Although she at first was nervous standing and speaking in public, Jenness said she has grown more comfortable. Her husband isn't surprised by her persistence.

"Jenness is never been one to let people push her around," Rick said.

Jenness said she's learned a lot about challenging government officials to bring about change. The noise issue remains a problem. She said it's a long process, and it's not easy. Her only words of advice to others who decide to get involved is keep at it.

"You just keep going on and don't stop," Jenness said. "And I'm not going to stop."



About Jenness Wiegand


Age: 46

Residence: Brighton Township

How you know her: Brighton Township activist who is trying to get the noise reduced at the Island Lake State Recreation Area shooting range. She used to work as an interior architectural designer.

Hobbies: Jenness loves to ride horses, and it's been her passion for many years. She rides summer and winter. Jenness used to ride her horses every day, but doesn't anymore due to the noise from a nearby shooting range. She's thrown all her energy into reducing noise at the shooting range.

Family: Married to Rick for 13 years. They have five children: Tyler, 12; Ryan, 10; Jason, 9; Lauren, 7; and Kaitlyn, 3.

You ever notice how sometimes even when someone has views that oppose yours, you still find yourself having a certain amount of respect for their abilities to argue well, or for having deep convictions or you think they are simply misguided?

Well, I didn't get any of those things from Ms. Wiegand.

And just WTH is an Argus?
 
A little background here.(I'm waiting for a FOIA response from Green Oak)

Island Lake is on a border area of Green Oak and Brighton Townships.

If the complainers are in Brighton, there's at least 1/2-1 mile away, crossing over the I-96 Expressway.

Then much of the area there is the Kensington Metro Park. There's some houses on the other side of Kensington Road, but the rest is North of there.

Chris Ward is a good guy and I voted for him when I lived near Brighton. I'm not worried about him.

And an Argus is a leftist rag.
 
Am I incorrect in believing what I see in movies and such where people ride horseback and shoot guns (although probably blanks) and the horse barely seems to notice? Wouldn't it seem that a horse could and would get used to the sound from over a mile away? Are the horses continuously spooked when the gun range is open? Doesn't seem likely or logical to me.

:confused:
 
I hope anyone who lives near there will try to attend the meeting tonight or the NRC meeting Thursday in Lansing.
 
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