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FMJ thoughts

Posted this on another thread about FMJ vs. HP:

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I'm a huge proponent for FMJ for the 1911.

-Reliability in any autoloader is paramount. Even if it's a minimal gain, it's a worthwhile investment. With most pistols, I doubt, no matter what it's loaded with, that 1 shot will do it unless the CNS is hit.

-The penetration factor between FMJs and HPs is pretty negligable for all intensive purposes: both will go through sheetrock, plywood, torsos etc., etc. at combat distances.

-One of the great benefits of FMJ, especially for us SHTF folk: FMJ will work for any pistol it's designed for, so long as the pistol itself is spec. HPs have to be tested in each pistol and tailored, usually, for that pistol. I can use FMJs as a better barter tool as well as arming friends with more confidence that THEIR guns will go bang every time.

-No deformation (and possible reliability issues) from loading and unloading

This is why revolvers still shine to this day: high reliability with ANY ammo type.

I carry 230 FMJ Federal Goldmatch in my 1911. Very accurate and the company takes a little more time to roll those puppies. I practice with Federal FMJ Eagles. No guessing what my defensive ammo will do, in drills or defense. They both respond the same way: same recoil impulse, same flash, same cycling, same everything; one (the Goldmatch FMJs) just has tighter tolerances.

I'd like to add that I feel folks put way, way too much stock in their bullet type. I feel JHPs can give a false and very dangerous sense of confidence which will make one shoot once/twice instead of continue shooting till that threat drops/stops.

The choices are:
-Hedge your bet a smidge with more tissue disruption
-Hedge your bet a smidge with more reliability

With a pistol, reliability. With a revolver, tissue disruption.

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-Paco
 
The Drew said:
The US isn't a signatory to the Hague convention... Although we generally abide by rules... There are plenty of examples where we (The US) don't.

Not quite.

The US DID sign the Hague Convention IV of 1907, Article 23(e) of which Annex states:

"...it is especially forbidden -

To employ arms, projectiles, or material {sic} calculated to cause unnecessary suffering;"

So, that's why you see the OTM (open tip match) bullet design used some.
Hollow points are not specifically prohibited, but this annex has been interpreted to mean such. Also, the JAG has written that they don't think this applies to "insurgents".

Anyway, carry on.
 
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