"Military-Style Guns Are More Deadly With Same Bullets"

[vtail]

That is the title to this story that was in today's paper. :banghead:

Apparently, the speed of the bullet is more when fired from "Military-Style" rifles:


http://newsok.com/high-powered-guns-ammunition-particularly-destructive/article/3739969


Please let this reporter know the truth, in a nice way:

[email protected]

 

[beatledog7]

Absolute and probably intentional falsehood. The outward appearance of a rifle cannot have a bearing on the velocity of the ammo fired from it.

 

[highorder]

That article was about nothing.It was a characterization of a few quotes from uninformed people.

Nothing to see here. Move on.

 

[WC145]

I read it and left a comment, it's incredible just how ignorant people can be. More incredible is that they try to pass off their ignorance as fact.

 

[gondorian]

It is actually somewhat funny because the speed of a bullet exiting a gas operated semi-auto is actually less than the same bullet from a bolt gun.

 

[Prince Yamato]

I feel stupider after reading that article. It reads like it was written by a fourth grader.

 

[bushmaster1313]

He left out that the shorter barrels in the military style rifles lets the bullets exit the gun sooner, and they don't lose as much speed due to extra friction when using a longer barrel suitable for hunting animals like elk and caribu. And of course, the guns used for bears and other dangerous game are much safer.

 

[mg.mikael]

Well I just wasted a few minutes of my life reading that pointless dribble.

Seriously it said "I've shot deer at over 150 yards and removed the shoulder with a high-powered rifle." If your completely removing a deers shoulder at 150 yards you must be using .50 BMG and that's just plain ludicrous.

 

[Ehtereon11B]

Oh my favorite was the news proclaiming that you can shoot exploding ammunition from "assault weapons." I am not sure if most media is just idiots trying to sensationalize the populace like they do with other violence or they honestly don't know how inaccurate they are.

 

[mortablunt]

Before: I'll be nice to him...
I just spent 2.5 hours picking apart the entire piece and correcting him on every little falsehood, mistake, sensationalism, and lie.

 

[Skribs]

Ehtereon, a lot of reporters confuse "expanding" with "exploding". They both have exp, right?

See I'd think they'd go after the stereotypical "scare em off" shotgun load. After all, isn't that A Salt Weapon?

 

[MachIVshooter]

It is actually somewhat funny because the speed of a bullet exiting a gas operated semi-auto is actually less than the same bullet from a bolt gun.

Not by a measureable amount. Standard deviation will be more than the loss from the gas system bleed off.

 

[coloradokevin]

Idiots who go as far away from facts as the one who wrote the article the OP was talking about might actually help our cause. It sure wouldn't be hard to prove that a .223 Rem round fired from a 16" barreled Bushmaster goes slower than a .223 Rem bullet fired from a 20-22" barreled bolt action varmint rifle.

When people get this stupid it just makes me smile a bit. Granted, I hate seeing false information disseminated to the masses as facts, but I do like the fact that it is so incredibly easy to debunk 90% of that article as propaganda.

 

[MachIVshooter]

Idiots who go as far away from facts as the one who wrote the article the OP was talking about might actually help our cause. It sure wouldn't be hard to prove that a .223 Rem round fired from a 16" barreled Bushmaster goes slower than a .223 Rem bullet fired from a 20-22" barreled bolt action varmint rifle.

When people get this stupid it just makes me smile a bit. Granted, I hate seeing false information disseminated to the masses as facts, but I do like the fact that it is so incredibly easy to debunk 90% of that article as propaganda.

I want to agree, but unfortunately, the ones who say it first and loudest are heard by most, and the majority of rebuttals are unheard, ignored or just drowned in the commentary. The people telling half truths and lies are counting on the laziness of their viewers/readership to take what they say at face value, and for the most part, people do (especially the ones who are predisposed to agreement with the author/newscaster).

 

[1911Tuner]

That article was about nothing.It was a characterization of a few quotes from uninformed people.

More likely the article was for uninformed people. If the writer is corrected and educated, he's not likely to back off from his spin on the subject.

 

[Reloadron]

More likely the article was for uninformed people. If the writer is corrected and educated, he's not likely to back off from his spin on the subject.

Turner nailed it.

Articles like this are aimed at the misinformed or uninformed. The name of the game is to win those who do not understand firearms over to the anti-gun side of the fence.

The problem we as those with an understanding of firearms face is we don't have the outlet to present our side. Yes, we can read stories like that and cry BS or foul. The problem is finding a means to convey the truth.

I just see the article as poorly written and lacking facts.

Ron

 

[bikerdoc]

Low information voters is what the this about. The 47% cant absorb too much so get to them first with a little false info and they take it as gospel.

 

[bushmaster1313]

Standard deviation will be more than the loss from the gas system bleed off

Was this about ballistics or flatuent talking head media types?