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Missouri Bullets for the 45-70

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Lennyjoe, Jan 23, 2020.

  1. Lennyjoe

    Lennyjoe Member

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    Looking to give Missouri's 405 gr lead bullets a try in my Marlin and was wondering if you prefer the coated or lubed better?

    I have 350Gr Hornady XTP's over Reloader 7 shooting good now but want to try the heavier cast at a slower speed to save my shoulder some pain.

    BTW, throw me some good powder weights that work good for you under the 405's as well. Thanks in advance.
     
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    If you aren't sure of your bore diameter, coated may be cleaner (but smellier). No experience with Missouri , I use a laser cast 405 (lubed) over a case of trail boss for 45-70 plinking. Works great.
     
  3. Lennyjoe

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    Will slug it this weekend.
     
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    Either one you wont go wrong. I use both and prefer coated. Just easier to work with for me.

    What powder do you have. If you have as5744 or h4895 I can shoot u some data. I have used tb and 3031 too.
     
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    Do you simply scoop the case full and seat? I thought we weren’t meant to do that. Just curious.
     
  6. mrawesome22-250

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    First time I put 13gr Unique under a 405 I shot a 5 shot group at 50 yards where all holes were touching. Skinner peep and skinner patridge front post with the front of the blade painted white.

    A 5 year old girl could shoot this load all day.

    It is not my hunting load, but it is an extremely enjoyable plinking load and that big old 405 still knocks that steel around even at a measly 1100fps.
     
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    No, sorry should have been clear on that. 12.5 grains of trail boss gives me about 925 fps, trail boss should not be compressed.
     
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    I like their 300s over tb for a real light load, and the 405s over 3031 for heavier. I haven't found a reason to try the coated.
     
  9. Lennyjoe

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    I have Unique and 3031 sitting on the shelf.
     
  10. Fine Figure of a Man

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    For light loads, 12 - 14 grains of Unique with 405 cast bullets, Alox or coated. I prefer coated, cleaner to work with and I get a small amount of leading near the muzzle with Aloxed bullets.
    3031 is not my favorite for 405gr bullets
    http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifle
     
  11. Lafitte

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    I like 13 gr. of Trailboss under a 405 gr. lead bullet. (as I recall the 13 gr load is max recommended)
    Lafitte
     
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    I think they give a discount to members here, but I don't have the code, unfortunately. I know they do to first responders and military.
     
  13. ericuda

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    405 mbc coated with 41.0 3031 will get u around 1400 fps and not too bad of recoil. I have went from 33 to 48.5 but would recommend staying in the middle.
     
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  14. Lennyjoe

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    I have it since I'm retired Air Force.
     
  15. Wis-Harpo

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    I shoot Hornady 350 RN in my Siamese Mauser 45-70. It has a ER Shaw 26 inch barrel, and the gun is very heavy-- in the 10 pound neighborhood. I used to shoot the 350 grain bullets at 2200 fps when I was a lot younger, but now at 71 years young- that would be brutal. My specs. are out in my reloading room, but I remember the last loadings were supposed to give 1600 fps with 3031 powder. The last time I shot it I got 7/8 th inch 5 shot group at 100 yards. It was 7/8 high, and only about 1/2 inch wide. So I stopped shooting with that group. If I changed out the 2 stage military trigger, I may get better groups.
     
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