Modern equivalent of 357 revolver/carbine combo?
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The .22CB is "meh" as well, but I'm still not standing in front of one.
C-grunt
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9mm out of a carbine can get up around 1700 FPS. I think a 40 carbine adds a bit of velocity as well. From what I have read though the standard 45s don't see a big velocity increase out of a carbine.
Carl N. Brown
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.45 Semi-auto Thompson and 1911 by AutoOrdnance (Numrich, West Hurley).
.357 Rossi Puma and Ruger Secirity Six.
The gain in .45 velocity in the carbine over the pistol is piddling, probably less than 100fps.
The gain in some .357 loads in the carbine over the pistol can be 500 fps, doubling the energy.
.357 Rossi Puma and Ruger Secirity Six.
The gain in .45 velocity in the carbine over the pistol is piddling, probably less than 100fps.
The gain in some .357 loads in the carbine over the pistol can be 500 fps, doubling the energy.
Don357
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The Highpoint carbines and pistols in 9mm, .40S&W, and .45acp all accept the same mags.(caliber specific, of course) But my choice would be an AR and a Desert Eagle both in .50AE, or a less expensive combination of a Ruger P90 and a Marlin Camp Rifle in .45acp.
RECIT
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The Beretta CX4 taking 92fs mags and a Beretta 92 would be the most economical solution retaining great reliability other than a pair of Rossi .357 revolver and lever gun. I think the Rossi options leave a lot to be desired fit and finish wise though. The Beretta options are top notch.
jmstevens2
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Surely you are more intelligent than to stoop to such hyperbole. Effective and able to cause harm are not the same thing.
I'm not going to stand in front of a paintball gun, that does not make it "effective"
Actually, ammunition standardization doesn't really make sense for a civilian.
You are not a trapped German in Stalingrad with a P-38 and MP-40 waiting for the Luftwaffe to fly ammunition to you. You are a civilian in one of the most prosperous countries on earth. You can buy any ammunition online for a reasonable price and have it shipped to your house.
If you are standardizing you are probably compromising to your own detriment.
You are not a trapped German in Stalingrad with a P-38 and MP-40 waiting for the Luftwaffe to fly ammunition to you. You are a civilian in one of the most prosperous countries on earth. You can buy any ammunition online for a reasonable price and have it shipped to your house.
If you are standardizing you are probably compromising to your own detriment.
Dirty Bob
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Another option is mine: a Ruger SP101 and an H&R single shot in .357, cut down to "youth rifle" size. I'm still playing with handloads to see what the H&R will do. I've been experimenting with heavy bullet, subsonic loads. Low recoil and noise, and very cheap to shoot.
Standardizing could be a good way to save money for someone who wants to keep things simple. The .357 or .44 Magnum could both work for this. If you handload, costs could be kept fairly low, and both cartridges gain a lot in a rifle barrel.
All my best,
Dirty Bob
Standardizing could be a good way to save money for someone who wants to keep things simple. The .357 or .44 Magnum could both work for this. If you handload, costs could be kept fairly low, and both cartridges gain a lot in a rifle barrel.
All my best,
Dirty Bob
precisionrifle14
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You could always just get a Spike's Tactical ar-15 pistol and a BCM EAG Tactical Carbine
Acera
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Jason W asked:
Olympic Arms has had a 10mm AR carbine out for years.
http://olyarms.net/index.php?page=s...category_id=29&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=5
Olympic Arms has had a 10mm AR carbine out for years.
http://olyarms.net/index.php?page=s...category_id=29&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=5
fatcat4620
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10mm AR and glock 20.
Standardizing means using the same ammo. Same load, same powder, same bullet or else why bother?
9mm carbines are out there and available, some even use the same magazines as current popular handguns.
Marlin and Ruger both tried unsuccessfully to market these to sportsmen and police alike. I suspect they failed due to the low power of auto pistol cartridges (compared to an AR/Mini 14 or shotgun) and the lack of accessories avalable at the time for the carbines in Ruger's case.
.357mag and .44mag out of a rifle are big medicine out past ranges I'd shoot a hand gun accurately. I'm not sure there is an autoloading cartridge that I could compare to those rounds.
9mm carbines are out there and available, some even use the same magazines as current popular handguns.
Marlin and Ruger both tried unsuccessfully to market these to sportsmen and police alike. I suspect they failed due to the low power of auto pistol cartridges (compared to an AR/Mini 14 or shotgun) and the lack of accessories avalable at the time for the carbines in Ruger's case.
.357mag and .44mag out of a rifle are big medicine out past ranges I'd shoot a hand gun accurately. I'm not sure there is an autoloading cartridge that I could compare to those rounds.
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Positivity
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Though it has already been mentioned, I think that the most modern equivalent would have to be the Glock 21 and the Kriss Super V. Both use the same caliber, same mag, even the extended mag from the Super V.
surfinUSA
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A kel tec and a Glock makes the most sense to me as they use the same mags. But I don't see either the 9mm or the 40S&W version beingany where near as useful as a lever action/revolver combo ineither 357 magnum or especially 44 magnum.
There is very little I would worry about out in the woods with a 44 magnum combo, other than the weight of the ammo. If you are careful that combo will do most anything you need doing.
There is very little I would worry about out in the woods with a 44 magnum combo, other than the weight of the ammo. If you are careful that combo will do most anything you need doing.
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