Mods to AR 15?

[gifbohane]

I am trying to plan ahead a lot. In the event that "they" ban, take or make illegal the standard Armalite 15 rifle, does anyone have any ideas on how to modify what you have to make the 15 functional and legit, in their eyes.

Please, no statements on what you will do if it happens, since all will have to make their own decisions.

I would plan to keep what I have but perhaps somehow modify it to single shot, or smaller barrel for 22's.

Thoughts?

 

[dogtown tom]

If

"they" ban, take or make illegal the standard Armalite 15 rifle

you won't be able to make one functional or legit.....because "ban, take or make illegal" means exactly that.

 

[WestKentucky]

You could remove the gas block and plug the hole making the gun a manual action. I haven’t seen a kit sold to make them pump action, but I do know that pump action ar type rifles do exist. That would be my primary goal should they ban semiauto... of course the lower is the serialized part and would not be effected by that mod, but the lower itself does not meet the criteria of being a firearm by ATF definitions to begin with.

 

[GEM]

With the specifics of a law, it is hard to say. States have different requirements and grandfathering requirements.

One might google compliant ARs and see what some state require.

Moving to rifle and let those folks deal with technical modifications, if those mods think this should continue.

 

[dh1633pm]

In NY when our AR's suddenly became illegal almost overnight. Well if we didn't register them (1-2 estimated did), most of us did things to make them more ok. Of course now there are those ridiculous stocks and other mods. I sold my illegal items except for my RRA Bull Barrel Upper. I then purchased a DPMS single shot lower. I modified the bolt release by drilling a small hole under the mag release from the top so that the bolt release says up and not down. The bolt now holds open after every shot. I shoot target one shot at a time anyhow. Now without cycling the bolt each time.

A friend drilled a hole though his AR Lower's Mag Well and welded a bolt through it. Others have removed or mod'd the gas system. Most of my friends have non semi AR's.

These were our initial mod's while everything was still settling out on the new law. It allowed us to take rifles with features in public without so much fear. My no mag AR shoots great. There are many more options these days.

 

[gotboostvr]

Alot of it will depend on how (if) they go about it, so it's almost pointless to start worrying about it now.

 

[AK Hunter]

I don't think it will stop at the ARs if it goes through it will be all semi-auto firearms.
They made & sold the Saiga pump action type AK during the last assault weapons ban. I'm sure something like that will come out in the AR if it happens.
Personally I don't see them going through with it.

 

[Space Ghost]

Everybody has ideas, and I know you're probably trying to avoid a political argument, but an AR is an AR.
If they start coming for them again, (and they are) there's nothing you can really do. We've seen that voting doesn't work...
You may be able to change this, or that to avoid the first round of thefts, but they'll either get you in the end, or you'll end up using it to defend what's left of your liberty...

I don't think they want the population to have any firearms at all. None. The defensive types like the AR, and AK are the most effective, (as fighting weapons) so they're first on the list.


At some point, you're gonna have to just decide if you want one or not, and if so, how you want to kit it out.
With our freedoms going away at such a rapid pace, this is pretty much a case of "Speak now, or forever hold your peace."

 

[IdaD]

I think it's pretty unlikely there will be any sort of ban that doesn't also include a grandfather clause, at least anytime in the relatively near future. So I'd expect existing AR rifles to be fine as-is. In terms of post-ban rifles, I guess the best indicator would be to look at what was in the previous AWB plus what the various states have implemented since. Likely ban features would include a pistol grip, threaded barrel and anything over about a 10 round detachable magazine (or possibly require fixed magazines).

 

[AlexanderA]

It's fruitless to speculate, since we don't know what future legislation would look like, or even if it ever happens.

Sen. Feinstein's perennial bill would ban guns by name, as well as by characteristics. If that's the case, then no amount of alteration would "save" a named gun.

 

[CapnMac]

on how to modify what you have to make the 15 functional and legit, in their eyes.

We can't know without the text of the law.

There's a very strong probability that any new Fed AWB will be crafted with "lessons learned" from the debacle of the first. They will want to make sure that "look alikes" will not be allowed; that "thumbhole stocks" will not be allowed; further that any 'grandfathering' will be extremely limited. This is no more difficult than using a "one feature" rule.

There's very likely to be any "sunset" either, unless 'our' side in Congress forces one in (and the antis just loathed that provision, and fought tooth & nail to over rule it in 2004).

 

[taliv]

i'd probably want an adjustable gas block that goes to zero to make it a single shot, or remove the gas tube and block or something like that, that could theoretically be quickly repaired.

 

[Elkins45]

Somebody marketed a kit that replaced the hand guards with a sliding tube and the gas tube with a steel rod that attached to the bolt carrier where the gas key attaches. It turned a semi auto AR into a pump action. A reasonably handy person could make something similar, and the Troy PAR is essentially the same thing.

 

[Varminterror]

I don’t know what these AR’s you’re talking about could be... I’ve never seen one before in my life....

 

[doubleh]

This is all idle speculation at this point. I'm not going to waste what few brain cells I have left speculating.

 

[Zerodefect]

I'm saddened by the fact that anybody cares.