More California insanity 2A style

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Gov Brown just signed into law more restrictions on lawful firearms owners according to the local news. The worst being raising the age to purchase long guns from 18 to 21. He must have thought that a one gun limit every 30 days would not be well received as he did veto this though.:confused: The 2A is in a slow downward spiral on the left coast. I hope the rest of us can hold off similar changes elsewhere. Get those of like mind out to vote--take the day off and volunteer to drive them there if need be. We can turn this mess around!
 
FROGO207 said:
Gov Brown just signed into law more restrictions on lawful firearms owners according to the local news. The worst being raising the age to purchase long guns from 18 to 21. He must have thought that a one gun limit every 30 days would not be well received as he did veto this though.:confused: The 2A is in a slow downward spiral on the left coast. I hope the rest of us can hold off similar changes elsewhere. Get those of like mind out to vote--take the day off and volunteer to drive them there if need be. We can turn this mess around!
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I thought I heard Tim Kaine and Ralph Northam cheering.
I’m so scared here in Va as were one seat in each house from this.
Sadly I’ve been trying to get people to wake up but no one will listen.

So it’ll be interesting to see what happens come November. Not only here in Va but in other states.
 
I don't really think there are any pro 2nd Am. politicians in Calif. Even if they say they are - they're lying. The other problem I see is that the Supreme Court needs to get off their ass and enforce the U.S. Constitution by what it says - NOT what they think it means. I always kinda thought that was their job.
 
Before this gets closed I'll just add that Californians have been losing their gun rights for a long time now. Too bad but it's a done deal...
Washington and Oregon will likely be next.
 
Shanghai McCoy said:
Before this gets closed I'll just add that Californians have been losing their gun rights for a long time now. Too bad but it's a done deal...
Washington and Oregon will likely be next.
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That’s the problem
We don’t discuss and how to fight this stuff
Yes we want to be nice and polite
But the antis aren’t
They’ve shown they’ll do anything to win.

Now we do t need to be like them in eating our own, but we need to have open and frank conversations on how to fight this stuff.
We have to stop sitting back and losing.

Personally I’d like this to be moved to the activism forum and people actually have a real discussion. Imho we should keep it civil and give the mods no reason to close it there.
 
There are plenty of pro2a people in California. To say otherwise is foolishness. Just because the majority aren’t pro2a means nothing as to the ideals of the minority there. This attitude of lumping the whole state together serves no purpose.

And like what was said before we beat keep this about the original post and not alienating fellow pro2a people this will get closed.
 
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There are plenty of pro2a people in California. To say otherwise is foolishness. Just because the majority aren’t pro2a means nothing as to the ideals of the minority there. This attitude of lumping the whole state together serves no purpose.

And like what was said before we beat keep this about the original post and not alienating fellow pro2a people this will get closed.
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Maybe "plenty" of pro 2 Amendment people but not enough to turn the tide. The Antis have been very active there since the early 70's. I was born there and saw it begin.
 
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There are plenty of pro2a people in California. To say otherwise is foolishness. Just because the majority aren’t pro2a means nothing as to the ideals of the minority there. This attitude of lumping the whole state together serves no purpose.

And like what was said before we beat keep this about the original post and not alienating fellow pro2a people this will get closed.
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Yes you’re a minority. And our country isn’t a democracy we’re a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC

There is a HUGE difference one the MSM chooses to trivialize.

The later protects the rights of minorities and prevents mob rule.

As a minority we have to learn to use it as we’re seeing laws like this chip away at our rights.
What’s next? 2@ is too young so make it 25 or 30?
 
In reality we need to take a page from the extreme left and be "in your face when you go out to dinner" vocal about it. Being nice is and WAS NEVER the way to do it.........But we tried to be high road about it. I sure am open to any ideas that are going to work in a civilized way mind you. Not physical violent as that will lower us to their level......... and we are above that. The biggest trouble about all this is we (average working stiff) are the ones that feed and house the protesters so that they can spend all their time to protest against the hands that feed them.:confused: Still we collectively need to come up with a workable way to change this to help the 2A survive.
 
The governor vetoed the following firearms and ammunition related legislation:

SB-1177 Firearms transfers (would make the 30-day prohibition and the dealer delivery prohibition described above applicable to all types of firearms, beyond the existing on handguns).

AB-2888 Gun Violence Restraining Orders (bill would have expanded the persons who could file for one, authorizing, but not requiring, an employer, a coworker, or an employee of a secondary or postsecondary school that the person has attended in the last 6 months to file a petition for an ex parte, one-year, or renewed gun violence restraining order).

SB-221 Agricultural District 1-A: firearm and ammunition sales at the Cow Palace.
 
GEM said:
I've deleted the usual denunciation of California and the people who live there. Confine your comments to the laws and suitable responses. Good people live there and those kind of comments are just Internet noise.
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True
Many are fleeing the state.
But we shouldn’t attack anyone
We should attack positions, and the use of emotion vs facts.

It’s vital that we fight hard but honorabley.
The more we do the more we frustrate the antis and show their lies and how they’ll do anything to get their way.
 
Hokie_PhD said:
Yes you’re a minority. And our country isn’t a democracy we’re a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC
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I have a quibble here. Really, rather a lot of rural and semi-rural Californians are supportive of 2a rights. Probably even a majority, if it came to counting noses.

However, the power politics of the mega-cities have been leveraged against those rural people as to make their needs, wishes, and desires moot. There are many counties in CA that might well be in any other state, Texas, Arkansas, Tennessee or the like--were it not for Sacramento and the SF-LA mega-corridor.

Sadly, the hardest thing to budge are entrenched incumbents who cater (or appear to cater; optics are hugely important) to the needs of the constituents.

Also, sadly, this is not solely a California phenomenon. This same disenfranchisement of the rural and semi rural by metropolitan elites is more than passing rampant in the NE, and parts of the midwest, too.

Which seems to be eagerly supported/championed/egged on by the compliant media estates. And that never-ending "push" to divide the "sensible," law-abiding," "peaceful" megacities from the rest of the nation, to the very brink of near civil war, scan foolish by any measure. Just how do they intend to feed all those citizens when the food, fuel, and goods makers are the ones with all the bullets?
 
Even if only 10% of California's population was pro-gun that'd be almost 4 million people. That's more people than the population of each of the 20 smallest states. That's a lot of people having their rights stripped away just because the majority thinks they'll feel safer.
 
It's difficult to get accurate numbers of guns owned and gun owners in CA.

Over the last 3 years there's been different "studies" and "polls" which have put CA's gun ownership at anywhere from just under 20% to over 35%, and the number of registered guns between just under 350,000 to more than 8 million. (The less-than-350,000 of total registered guns number looks a little odd when you consider the monthly sales of registered guns here in CA has run anywhere from 135,000 to more than 300,000 in the last few years.) Pick numbers you like, and you can probably find some study or poll to support it.

Then, there's all of the unregistered guns in the state, since the laws requiring registration of them when sold are relatively recent. (People moving here from other states to become CA residents are required to register their firearms with CA DOJ within a time period, as is explained on their website.) While the state law requiring registration of handguns sold/bought goes back to the early 90's, the state only began requiring registration of long guns bought/sold in the last few years (although different types of "assault weapon" registration has occurred).
 
I'm not looking forward to the next 4 years with our dictator. That would make it 12 years total. He's already talking about expanding the SAFE Act. I hate to say it but the younger generation for the most part hates anything to do with guns. They're fine in movies and video games but not for leagal owners. But if your a poor, deprived, minority using it to rob and kill thats ok because it's our fault for making them. We got something bad in the water in the USA.
 
Instead of discussing the law , some want to make inappropriate remarks about minority populations.
Continue and your time here is limited.

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