More Proof That Gun Control Doesn't Work

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Take away the guns and the whack-jobs of the world just use something else.

Japanese man kills six in Tokyo stabbing rampage
Peter Walker and agencies
Sunday June 8 2008

At least six people were killed and more than a dozen injured today in Tokyo after a man went on a stabbing rampage in a busy shopping district.

The attacker, named by reports as Tomohiro Kato, 25, drove a truck into a Sunday lunchtime crowd in the Akihabara area of the city before slashing and stabbing at passers by with a knife, apparently at random.

At least six people were confirmed as having been killed in the attack, Japan's Kyodo News agency said, identifying some of the victims as men aged 19, 47 and 74, and one woman. Police said 13 more people had been injured.

"The suspect told police that he came to Akihabara to kill people," said Jiro Akaogi, a police spokesman. "He said he was tired of life. He said he was sick of everything."

The rest of the article here.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/08/japan
 
well see this is exactly where gun control did work...........no one had a gun no shots were fired(so the public should be happy) now if they could only have knife control, then stick control, then rock control, then fist control.
 
Update:

7 dead in Tokyo stabbing spree

By SHINO YUASA, Associated Press Writer
1 minute ago

TOKYO - A man who police said "was tired of life" drove into a crowd of pedestrians Sunday and then went on a stabbing rampage in Tokyo's premier electronics and video game district, killing seven people and wounding 10, authorities said.

Here's the "no duh!" moment:

An unidentified witness told NHK the suspect dropped the knife after police threatened to shoot him.

What? I thought guns were eeeevil? Oh, wait, guns in the hands of police can stop bad guys, but only after they've killed several people. Too bad the civilian gun owners couldn't stop him before he killed seven and wounded 10. Oh, wait again, I might as well be asking for the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny. They're at least as real as civilian gun owners in Japan. :rolleyes:

I am an LEO and I will be the first to say: "when seconds count, the police are only minutes away."

Once rare, stabbing attacks have become more frequent in Japan in recent years as violent crime has increased. In one of the worst attacks, a man with a history of mental illness burst into an elementary school in Japan in 2001 and killed eight children. The killer was executed in 2004.

Surely this can't be happening in a country with almost total gun control? Are they saying that violent crime is increasing even without Saturday night specials, "assault weapons", and those "shoulder thingies that fold up"? I wonder if he had a pistol grip or a bayonet lug on that knife? Clearly, there is a need for background checks before you are allowed to purchase a knife. Or a truck, for that matter, since a truck was the other weapon used in this attack.
 
Japan has a lot of mass stabbings. Actually, I believe I've read that there have been something like half as many school stabbings there as there have been school shootings in the USA. Pretty impressive for a country that's smaller than California.

I love how Japanophiles always respond by saying how incredibly passifistic the Japanese are, and how all Japanese would rather kill themselves than another person. Whoever Japan had for their PR campaign after WWII, I want them working for me. I could be the king of the entire planet 60 years from now.
 
love how Japanophiles always respond by saying how incredibly passifistic the Japanese are, and how all Japanese would rather kill themselves than another person

Nonsense. I lived there for four years. Fascinating place, decent people for the most part. They are a conformist society, not a pacifiistic one. They had an anti-war pseudo-pacifism enforced upon them by the US government post WWII and it has stuck for the most part.
 
This sentiment:

"I am tired of the world. Anyone was ok. I came alone."

...expressed by the stabber/slasher/rammer, seems to be at the heart of many of these incidents. It doesn't seem to matter if you hail from the West, the East or somewhere in the middle.

The sickness doesn't spring from the various dangerous instrumentalities (knife, car, gun, rock, whatever) used to effect the damage...it comes from somewhere else.
 
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Half as many mass stabbings as we have school shootings? Sounds about "right" to me. They have half our population, so statistically about the same.

I've been in that neighborhood many times. Akihabara is a huge geek metropolis. Think Manhattan crossed with every electronics store you've ever seen with a serious video game/animation/comic book overtone. Extremely crowded on a Sunday at lunchtime. Think Times Square on New Year's Eve. It's almost that crowded. In this case the cops probably WERE there in less than 2 minutes.

Awfully crowded place for gunfire, but if the guy didn't drop the weapon, he probably would have gotten shot. The Tokyo cops don't look nearly as militant as LAPD, but they don't mess around.

This guy has a date with a rope. Death penalty is alive and well in Japan.
 
This guy has a date with a rope. Death penalty is alive and well in Japan.

Just 8 years ago on this same date, a mass stabbing in a Osaka school left 8 people dead. Killer got the rope too.
 
A place where no one was allowed weapons is the perfect place for a serial killer.
 
here is what I find interesting, he crashed his vehicle into the crowd, yet all the fatalities are being chalked up to knife stabbing.

guys, a vehicle aimed at a crowd is a much more deadly and destructive weapon than a knife.

But it just doesn't work to ban automobiles, they are too necessary, so there are two choices 1. Blame the person not the tools he used. 2 blame the 'other' tool, the easy one to blame and ban and control, and hope no-one asks about the really dangerous tool that isn't being addressed
 
Only the person can be blamed.

here is what I find interesting, he crashed his vehicle into the crowd, yet all the fatalities are being chalked up to knife stabbing.

guys, a vehicle aimed at a crowd is a much more deadly and destructive weapon than a knife.

But it just doesn't work to ban automobiles, they are too necessary, so there are two choices 1. Blame the person not the tools he used. 2 blame the 'other' tool, the easy one to blame and ban and control, and hope no-one asks about the really dangerous tool that isn't being addressed

Other than the person himself, blame placed on anything else is senseless, since the youngest child can tell you a car, or knife, or a stick, or a rock, or whatever, isn't going to jump up by itself, unless you have a poltergeist problem, but then, the poltergeist is the one to be blamed, still not the tools.
 
Hey, I know! We need knife control!

In a semi-related story, British police are pushing for the right stop and search citizens for knives, following a rash of stabbings by youths (in London?). Next up- club control.
 
guys, a vehicle aimed at a crowd is a much more deadly and destructive weapon than a knife.

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I don't know, maybe it was one of those..

Now, it also could have been worse:
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one thing in common...

have knife control, then stick control, then rock control, then fist control.

what do these things noted earlier have in common....control.
 
Man stabs shoppers in Tokyo street, killing seven

By David DolanSun Jun 8, 12:40 PM ET

A man who said he was tired of life went on a stabbing rampage on Sunday in a crowded Tokyo shopping street, killing seven people and wounding a dozen others.

The man drove a rental truck into a crowd of pedestrians at lunchtime and then walked down the street knifing passers-by in Akihabara district, known for its discount electronics and maid cafes.

"I came to Akihabara to kill people," Kyodo news agency quoted the attacker as telling police. "I am tired of the world. Anyone was OK. I came alone."

A Tokyo police spokesman said at least seven people had been killed and 12 wounded.

"The man jumped on top of a man he had hit with his vehicle and stabbed him with a knife many times," Kyodo quoted a 19-year-old witness as saying. "Walking toward Akihabara Station, he slashed nearby people at random."

The dead were six men aged 19 to 74 and a 21-year-old woman, the news agency said.

The police said a man had been arrested, and television stations showed a slight, blood-splattered 25-year-old being herded into a police car.

Witnesses said the rampage was stopped when a policeman armed with a gun confronted the man, who NHK television said was shouting as he cut down his victims.

The street, usually crowded with tourists and locals seeking cheap gadgets, was cleared by police, who searched for evidence amid pools of blood.

"It's pretty shocking, considering that I come here all the time," a man told NHK.

The rampage came on the seventh anniversary of a massacre at a Japanese primary school, when a knife-wielding janitor and former mental patient killed eight schoolchildren. He was later executed for the killings.

Although Japan has relatively little violent crime, such high-profile cases have raised public concern about violence.

Shooting deaths remain rare in Japan, although there have been some recent cases involving "yakuza" criminal gangs.

As well as electronics, Akihabara has become known in recent years as a centre for Japan's expansive "nerd" culture of video games, comic books and outlandish fashion -- including street performers and cafes with waitresses dressed as French maids.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080608/ts_nm/japan_stabbing_dc_8
 
They dont even let them carry mace, tazers, knives or batons. He killed 3 of them with his car and 4 with his knife.

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Its sad we live in a world like this I belive if they took the guns away violent crimes would just be much more grusome. although on the other hand guns do make it much easier to kill.
 
I belive if they took the guns away violent crimes would just be much more grusome. although on the other hand guns do make it much easier to kill.

You have just said the same thing twice. More gruesome is the opposite of an easy kill.
 
Shooting deaths remain rare in Japan, although there have been some recent cases involving "yakuza" criminal gangs.

Whew! At least murders by guns are down. Because it's so much better to be murdered with a knife than a gun.
 
the fallacy of this thread is the idea that anti-weapons, anti-self defense rights people care one whit about proof.

Proof is only relevant against a logical and rational opponent in this debate.

Since we do not have that, proof is of no particular value.

and that's the ugly truth behind gun control - proof means nothing, evidence means nothing, the deaths of innocents means nothing to them either. All they care about the elimination of the means to a fundamental right to not be a victim.

that's gun control.
 
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