Mosin Barreled Action

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I have been reading a few mosin threads and of course there are always the bubbarization threads. However what I have is already bubbarized so the question is what to direction to go in.

Here is what she is.. 1954 dated Izhevsk M44 barreled action. Unfortunately somone cut the barrel off right behind the bayonet lug assembly. Leaving it with a 16" barrel no front site and a hacksaw crown. However the Bore is in excellent condition. The previous owner also spray painted the barreled action with black paint which is now flacking off. The only other parts that came with the barreled action is a complete rear sight assembly.

I already had a fair assortment of small Mosin parts and after grabbing a few of the missing major parts at a gunshow. I know have an "almost" functioning rifle (sans stock)


tell me what you think I should do with it I am open to all suggestions.

Brother in Arms
 
Ruling on the field. previous owner hack job, with no stock. penalties offset. 1st down. offense retains the ball! :neener:

in this situation, anything you do to the rifle would be an improvement. im sure any milsurp purist would agree.

i do sugest a full rebuild. a stock can be had cheap. as can a barrel (35$ for example Mosin Barrel)

upon complettion you can join the MNRC ( im seriously gunna make this a real group)
 
I'd rebarrel it. A 16" barrel is useless and the muzzle blast will be astounding. Gunparts has some parts, including a match grade trigger(not cheap though). There are commercial synthetic stocks available. There's several issue stocks on, gulp, e-bay. I'd avoid E-Bay though. They're anit-firearm.
 
How difficult is it to rebarrel a mosin? Is it something one can do with shop tools in their basement, or is it a gunsmith-only job?
 
Anything can be rebarreled, if you can find a smith that will humor you. Sixteen inches is a total waste. I hate to say it, but I'd stick it in the back of a closet and bring it out for " Show and tell ". I wish I could be more encouraging....Essex
 
oh come on you guys...no one can imagine the ultimate fireball this rifle could produce?? At typical M44 makes a fireball the size of a basket ball but this would be huge.

I was thinking about threading whats left of the barrel and using it to test flash supressors of my own design.

Brother In Arms
 
A 16" barrel is useless and the muzzle blast will be astounding.
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While the blast will be fierce, I would hardly call a 16” barrel useless. Less than optimum yes, useless no.

If the cut is square, use a carriage bolt and lapping compound to recrown the barrel for cheap.

If you swap barrels, it will likely cost you twice what the finished gun is worth.
 
Oh, they can be rebarrelled, but having removed the barrel from a 91/30, I can say the force required is significantly higher than, say, removing the barrel from a Savage 110.

Ash
 
Being a new comer to this fine forum, I find I have to throw in my 2 cents.

A 16 inch barrel, what a hoot.. :what: As said above, recrown it, and have some fun. I think the synthetic stocks are fairly cheap and a drop in.

Other choice. Put the dough towards a nice MN and put the rig in the closet for parts or talk.
 
the mosin nagant action will actually feed load and exstract a .410 2 1/2 inch shell! I noticed that a long time ago. I don't think the 45-70 would fit in the magazine box due to its shape. also the reciever would have to be milled out on the bottom.

Considering I paid $5.00 for the barreled action I dont think I will have it rebbarreled. Infact the parts I am putting it cost more than the reciever and barrel.

I am thinking about putting a scout scope mount on it because the site radius is just going to be so short.

It does need to be recrowned badly but that isnt hard to do.

Oh something else I noticed about it... Its not marked with an Arrow like I thought... Its Marked with an 02 which is hungarian correct??

by the way if anyone has any mosins parts let me know.

Brother in Arms
 
Could make a nice, lightweight scout-type rifle outa it. Synthetic stock,forward scope mount,etc. ESSENTIAL would be a muzzle brake,and/or really good recoil pad.

Currenly building a Mauser(VZ-24)to similar specs(although probably w/ 18" barrel) in 8mm-06 (action is good the rest is junk.) It WILL have muzzle brake,or ported barrel,and a REALLY good recoil pad!!!!:what:
 
update

today I recrowned the 16 1/4" inch barrel, I bought a ATI black synthetic stock off a freind of mine and I robbed enough parts from my 91/30 so I could test fire the cut down M44.

Head space was good so I put few rounds of Albanian surplus through it and even without a front site it shoots minute of Old recliner ;)

So far I haven't fitted it with a flash hider. But the flash wasn't nearly as bad I thought it would be. Recoil wasn't that bad, the ATI stock added quite a bit of wieght to it.

I'll give a more complete report when I get a front site or scope on it.

Brother in Arms
 
UPDATE:

Fired the Mini-mosin again today though I never did get around to getting a scout scope for it...I figured I would see if it was even worth buying one first by attaching a front site and seeing if it would group.

so I went to my favorite gunsmiths shop and bought a old used 1903 springfield front site that has been removed from a sportorized rifle long ago, which I had to open up a bit with a round file and some sand paper. Then I heated up the frontsite band on the kitchen stove and forced onto the end of the muzzle and tapped it until it was straight once cooled it was firmly adhered anchored in place...

I also grabbed enough parts for it to be fully functional though the action is far from smooth. I took an old piece of plywood and 15 rounds of albanian steel core and my girlfreind and I headed for the gravel pit. We set up the ply with a 6 inch spray painted bullseye. I walked back 25 yards and took careful aim at the center of the black and fired... first shot hit 12 inches low and 3 inches to the right...so I fired 2 more shots and they all did as well.. It was about a 2 inch group at 25 yards....which I consider pretty good considering the ammunition. I adjusted the rear sight and I found at the 900 meter sight increment it fired at the right elevation for the bulleye when aimed at the center of the bull. Still shoots 3 inches to the right of the bulleyes but very consistantly the smalled group was about 1 1/2 inches offhand at 25 yards.

Again the muzzle flash was found to be not bad at all though there was some muzzle blast about 10 feet in front of the muzzle leaves on the ground would get blown out of the way and that was off hand. Recoil was really not bad at all as the ATI stock adds a fair amount of wieght compared to the relatively lightwiegh wood m44 stock it would have had.

I guess this is a feel good story about saving bubbarized guns. It actually shoots slightly better most 91/30's I have shot and much better than several m44 I have shot, must be due to the very good condition of the barrel as well as having been recrowned by me and the good bedding of the ATI stock...often times the wooden stocks are poorly fitted.

so far this is what I got in it:

Barreled action and complete rear sight assembly $5.00
Trigger, trigger pin $5.00
complete magazine box assembly $5.00
complete bolt assembly $0.00
1891 MN ejector/catridge interupter $10.00
1903 springfield front site base and site blade $10.00
ATI stock $50.00
front and rear action screw $10.00



I am still missing the trigger stpring which is being borrowed from my 91/30 though I think I am getting one soon and it will probably set me back about $5.00

$100 isnt bad for a reliable and reasonably accurate rifle...though it looks ugyl I got to enjoy the fun of rebuilding it myself. A friend of mine bought a parkerizing setup so he said If I showed him how to use it I could parkerize it for free.

If I new how to post pics I would.

Take it easy and thanks to all of those with interest in this little rescued rifle.

Brother in Arms
 
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