eastsunshine
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how is the accuracy at 100yrds with these guns, with good ammo, and crappy surplus ammo.
mosin nagant m91/30
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HoosierQ
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Very accurate guns. Maybe not the very best. The gun is probably more accurate than their sights will allow and the bores needn't be pristine to be accurate. The crappy ammo is really not all that crappy, it is just corrosive.
Bob J
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Good grouping but the sights are invariably off by a fair amount (unless you have a Tula)....
KSCCHTrainer
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Surplus ammo isn't all that crappy for the most part. Hungarian, Polish and Russian stuff is really good. I haven't had a chance to shoot any Bulgarian yet. The Albanian is pretty dirty, but it's brass cased (non-reloadable berdan primers).
A 91/30 usually likes the heavier bullets, I.E. 174 grain for best accuracy while the M44 carbines generally shoot better with the 147 grain "light ball". My scoped 91/30 will shoot 1.5" groups all day long at 100 yards using Polish light ball, and with my 174 grain Sierra MatchKing handloads, if I do my part it will shoot sub MOA.
Don't let corrosive ammo throw you off. Unless it's black powder, just the primers are corrosive. The salts deposited after firing attract moisture and will cause rust.
Just run a windex (with ammonia) soaked patch through the bore one time after shooting the stuff to neutralize the corrosive salts and then clean normally with CLP, Hoppes #9, Rem-Clean or some other good bore cleaner. Run a lightly oiled patch through at the end before you put it away. (Don't forget to dry-patch it before you shoot it again to get most of the oil out.)
Do that and you'll never have a problem with the so-called "corrosive" ammo.
A 91/30 usually likes the heavier bullets, I.E. 174 grain for best accuracy while the M44 carbines generally shoot better with the 147 grain "light ball". My scoped 91/30 will shoot 1.5" groups all day long at 100 yards using Polish light ball, and with my 174 grain Sierra MatchKing handloads, if I do my part it will shoot sub MOA.
Don't let corrosive ammo throw you off. Unless it's black powder, just the primers are corrosive. The salts deposited after firing attract moisture and will cause rust.
Just run a windex (with ammonia) soaked patch through the bore one time after shooting the stuff to neutralize the corrosive salts and then clean normally with CLP, Hoppes #9, Rem-Clean or some other good bore cleaner. Run a lightly oiled patch through at the end before you put it away. (Don't forget to dry-patch it before you shoot it again to get most of the oil out.)
Do that and you'll never have a problem with the so-called "corrosive" ammo.
SpikeBayonet
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I had a "Finn-captured" (SA mark) Tula 91/30 that I hit a 7-11 stryfoam coffee cup dead center at 100yds with Bulgarian ammo - off-hand/kneeling - didn't even disturb the liquid inside (honestly, I though I'd made a clean miss until I looked). Probably the most accurate rifle I've ever fired, so, naturally, I went and sold it...
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Hiaboo
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Mosins are acutally very accurate with almost any type of ammo --
I do about 3 to 5 inch groups at 175 yards offhand, seated, I hit a 12"x8" steel plate at that range every time.
I set it on the little notch right below the 2 on the rear sight w/ the czech and hungarian ammo.
btw 1935 tula.
I do about 3 to 5 inch groups at 175 yards offhand, seated, I hit a 12"x8" steel plate at that range every time.
I set it on the little notch right below the 2 on the rear sight w/ the czech and hungarian ammo.
btw 1935 tula.
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