I have noticed that, after years of everyone having them for $69/$79, several of the online vendors are out and others are charging $100 and stating that they may run out. Online prices in my state/local forum are getting up to $130/$140. Are the imported MN's starting to run out? Are we looking at $300/$400 Mosin Nagants in two years (for what a year ago would have been an $80 rifle)?
Mosin Nagants starting to run out?
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Probably not, they're just charging more because they can. AIM Surplus usually has $80 Mosins. I bought mine for $90 at Big 5 last September. They even had some for $80 but they were in worse condition. The last time I was there they had one for $120.
Wesson Smith
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Couldn't have happened fast enough. 
rangerruck
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the m38's, are absolutely running dry. I also think the war era and before, are starting to wear thin, and you will soon be buying only post ww2, mosins.
bigalexe
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If you had to equate the felt recoil of a Mosin to something else what would it be with the 7.62x54 round?
.243
.308
30-06
300 Win Mag
50 BMG
Just give me some reference. I dont know anyone that has one they shoot alot.
.243
.308
30-06
300 Win Mag
50 BMG
Just give me some reference. I dont know anyone that has one they shoot alot.
Crawfish141
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There's a finite supply of Mosins? I thought they were the only milsurp rifle that would never run dry.
bigalexe - the Mosin round falls between the 308 and 30-06 in power but you don't feel as much recoil due to the fact that it's a very heavy rifle. I can shoot the Czech 148 grainers with no pad or vest. A rubber slip on would be nice over the steel butt plate but its really kinda tame. X
Kind of Blued
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This planet is outright infested with Mosin Nagants.
After we're all gone, it'll be cockroaches and flour beetles fighting WWIV with 91/30s.
After we're all gone, it'll be cockroaches and flour beetles fighting WWIV with 91/30s.
M38 recoil is nasty. Geometry sucks. It might work really well when you're wearing an enormous, thick coat over a heavy sweater and a few more layers in Siberia. Now that we have better clothing even for Winter wear, the design doesn't really work.
I'd rather shoot a .45-70 with a steel buttplate. In fact, I have. And enjoyed it.
My modern .30-06 hunting rifle with a Weatherby comb and a bit of rubber on the butt is downright pleasant to shoot. The Weatherby stock design is just about the antithesis of the Mosin stock design, WRT what it does under recoil.
I'd rather shoot a .45-70 with a steel buttplate. In fact, I have. And enjoyed it.
My modern .30-06 hunting rifle with a Weatherby comb and a bit of rubber on the butt is downright pleasant to shoot. The Weatherby stock design is just about the antithesis of the Mosin stock design, WRT what it does under recoil.
MD_Willington
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39,000,000 of them were produced...
running out?
running out?
ccsniper
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well we all knew it would happen. it does with every surplus gun, thats why ive resolved to buy all the surplus guns i see.
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seen another grease pile of m91/30-44 and mausers come in at local feed the need,but their having trouble getting any ammo,bulgy,rom,russian,czec cant find anything but black box wolf 12.00 a box.even pawnshops are out i always find the paper string tied stuff for 4-5.00,not anymore.waitin for a gunshow,now if they would quit jackin admission,its 8.00 now just to get in..
seen another grease pile of m91/30-44 and mausers come in at local feed the need,but their having trouble getting any ammo,bulgy,rom,russian,czec cant find anything but black box wolf 12.00 a box.even pawnshops are out i always find the paper string tied stuff for 4-5.00,not anymore.waitin for a gunshow,now if they would quit jackin admission,its 8.00 now just to get in..
ijosef
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Well, there was a time when they couldn't give SKS rifles away for $75. Now look at them. Of course, an SKS does not equal a Mosin Nagant, since the former can be qualified as an evil "assault rifle" by some.
I bet a lot of them were bought up because they were so cheap. After the panic dies down and first time gun owners realize they have no need for these clunky old things, they'll hit the used market again.
You can get recoil pads that will bolt right on:
http://www.combatoptical.com/catalog/MOSIN-NAGANT-M44-RECOIL-BUTT-PAD-448.html
I think the 1" of added length would be nice, at least on all the 91/30's and M44's I've tried out.
I bet a lot of them were bought up because they were so cheap. After the panic dies down and first time gun owners realize they have no need for these clunky old things, they'll hit the used market again.
You can get recoil pads that will bolt right on:
http://www.combatoptical.com/catalog/MOSIN-NAGANT-M44-RECOIL-BUTT-PAD-448.html
I think the 1" of added length would be nice, at least on all the 91/30's and M44's I've tried out.
Elbert P . Suggins
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I recently bought a Mosin-Nagant 91/30 with hex reciever and a M38 and have to admit that at $125 and $160 these out of some 24 long guns that I own are the most accurate with iron sights I have ever shot. And with the corrosive ammo at $110 for 440 rounds it is pretty damn hard to compare for cheap shooting. Clean up is a snap with WD40, Hoppy 9, and a metal swab brush. I read posts that condemn the safety as almost impossible to engage and the supposedly terrible recoil on the M38 and I have come to the logical conclusion that there are more girly men out there than I actually thought existed.
Flash!
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does any one have M44's in stock????
Time was when Trapdoor Springfields were plentiful and no one wanted them. Arisakas, Enfields, 98 Mausers everywhere now it isn't quite so. Once these guns get used up and abused they are gone. Mosins are cheap now because they are plentiful. The more that get Bubbafied the less originals exist and the more value to the good ones.
So please buy a Mosin and Modify the heck out of it. Chop away, paint the stock or use it for kindling, grind the bayonet attachment off. Sporterize em, make em into furniture. Then mine will be worth more and I'll appreciate it.
So please buy a Mosin and Modify the heck out of it. Chop away, paint the stock or use it for kindling, grind the bayonet attachment off. Sporterize em, make em into furniture. Then mine will be worth more and I'll appreciate it.
rangerruck
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gander mountain usually has 44's, and sometime 91/30's. 38's are just going to be tough. a 38 , shooting the 205 grainers, is very much like a 300winmag, very ouchy. get a Butler Creek, SMALL SIZE, slip on pad, for about 8 bucks, fits like a grape skin.
rangerruck
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i agree with above dude; their accuracy can be quite good, especially if you find rounds between 170 and 185grains; the russians found this to be the real sweet spot, and also added to their volley fire, from 2000yds, out to about 2500 yds.
the 205's are super accurate, but they have a big point of aim drop, even at 100yds, from the other ammo.
and for corrosive ammo, all you need to clean is hot water, some peeps use a bit of blue windex as well, but hot water neutralizes the salts just fine.
the 205's are super accurate, but they have a big point of aim drop, even at 100yds, from the other ammo.
and for corrosive ammo, all you need to clean is hot water, some peeps use a bit of blue windex as well, but hot water neutralizes the salts just fine.
32 Magnum
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The "last" 100 91/30s that Southern Ohio Gun had in stock was just, three days ago, ordered by a local Eastern PA gunshop. SOG said that they "don't know when we'll get more."
there have been import setbacks lately. Not to mention that Mosins are the new hot collector guns since its getting much, much harder to find pure M98/K98s, K-31s, Garands, and the like. But, you can still find a mosin with shrapnel wounds on it and every matching piece for pretty much ten bucks more than a non-matching one.
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