mosin nagat worth the 80$??

[X9ballX]

i have heard this was a cheap gun and from what else i heard it was used alot in WW2 by the russians.since i like what i hear about any kind of weapon from russia i wanted to look this one up.


a freind of mine bought one for himself and his wife and said he liked it but replaced the barrel.he also asked me to make him a stock for it out of walnut.

he said it was worth the 120$ he spent on it and his dad got him the barrel since his dad owed him money. he told me they usually run about 80 to 90 bucks so i ask you is it worth the cash??

 

[J_L_A]

Yes.....a Mosin is worth that. Maybe a little more as well.

 

[dougestyle]

Google mosin nagant markings....it may have some good one's. Even if it doesn't I'd say it's worth that. I have 3 and they all shoot decent. Expect 4-6 MOA and plenty of power to hunt deer-sized game.

 

[GD]

That is the 1st time I have heard of a barrel being replaced on a Mosin. Most people would just buy another Mosin. A typical Soviet M91/30 or a M44 is worth under $100. A Finnish Mosin can be worth many hundreds of dollars. I have about 10 Soviet Mosins and they average 3-4" groups at 100 yards. My 30 Finnish mosins average under 2" groups at 100 yards with some more accurate than I am capable of shooting.

 

[kragluver]

$80 is a decent price. I have an M38 that I recently bought for $100. It will hold about 3 MOA off the bench. I bought it for a cheap pig rifle. The carbines are sure handy little guns.

 

[Cmdr. Gravez0r]

Expect 4-6 MOA

From experience I'd say closer to 2-4 MOA.

 

[flyboy1788]

i bought a non fireable arisaka type 38 for 70 bucks without even thinking twice. I would not hesitate to buy any funtioning gun of any sort for only 80 bucks. Then again I have a terrible sickness called ifitgetsinmyway Ibuyit.

 

[fireflyfather]

Depends on what you want it for. I mostly use mine to shoot slow to mid-range loads pushing hand-loaded soft lead cast bullets. Since it headspaces on the rim, the brass last for a LONG time.

I needed something dirt cheap for shooting inside of 200 yards. It serves my needs well, and a box of my reloads costs about $2.

For long range target work, probably not the best choice outside about 300 yards. (Finnish Mosins aside, but those aren't $80).

 

[BUGUDY]

I just bought a Russian for 70$. It looks in great shape. I don't think it saw much action from the looks of it. Bolt is smooth, bore is bright and wood is in great shape

 

[dougestyle]

I say 4-6 MOA because I think they will all do that. Some will do better of course. I have 3 and two of them will shoot around 2.5. Just didn't want to get his hopes up. I think everyone should have at least one mosin.

 

[X9ballX]

thanks guys i plan on getting the a carbine version. i also plan on making a custom stock.

 

[mr.trooper]

No rifle with a decent barrel and properly aligned sights will shoot 6 MOA. Such a rifle would only have an effective range of just over 100 yards. A 15'th century hand cannon would be a more accurate weapon.

3 MOA would only give it an effective range of 300 yards. I think people are forgetting how many sniper kills the soviets racked up with these weapons in WII.

 

[X9ballX]

can i get the ammo for this at a gunshop lol

 

[grimjaw]

Replaced the barrel?

I think I'd skip that deal.

jm

 

[Wedge]

Have to agree. 4-6 MOA is reasonable, anything better is gravy.

Under $100 is reasonable if you don't have a C&R since it costs $70+$15 shipping + $15 tranfer to get one otherwise.

 

[X9ballX]

ok this may sound retarded but ths wll be my first rifle and how do i put a scope on this thing

 

[Wedge]

X9ballX,

If I understand this correctly, your friend is trying to sell you a Mosin Nagant that had to be rebarreled for $120? No way. Why would anyone rebarrel a Mosin Nagant? I broke a barrel band clip on mine and thought about just buying another one...rifle that is!

You can buy a nice handselect Mosin Nagant for about $120 after shipping and transfer fees. For $100-120 you could pick up a nice one at a gunshow. Unless his gun shoots exceptionally well, I would pass and keep looking.

You could either go for a scout scope mount or you have to use a side scope mount. There are some different mounts out there, a search on this board or your favorite search engine will turn some stuff up.

My friend bought a $60 Mosin, sporterized it (no historic value, already has a few, wanted to try a project. did the scout scope, stock, hours and hours of inletting, bedding, etc.) and still can barely get 3 MOA out of the thing. He shot expert in the Army and with a POS .22 can repeatably get under 2 MOA.

My opinion is that the Mosin is a cool old gun that shoots a powerful cartridge. My M44 bone stock also shoots 4 MOA. If you want an accurate driving scoped rifle, get something like a used Savage 110.

 

[fireflyfather]

No rifle with a decent barrel and properly aligned sights will shoot 6 MOA. Such a rifle would only have an effective range of just over 100 yards. A 15'th century hand cannon would be a more accurate weapon.

3 MOA would only give it an effective range of 300 yards. I think people are forgetting how many sniper kills the soviets racked up with these weapons in WII.

6moa at 100 yards is a 6 inch group. Even at 200 yards, that's only a 12 inch group. Plenty enough for most WWII military purposes at those ranges. 3MOA gets you a 9 inch group at 300 yards. Probably good out to at least 400-450 yards before you start missing the torso entirely. For hunting? No. For "minute of bad guy" at 200 yards? Just fine. "Minute of milk jug" at 100 yards? Sure.

Having said that, do I want a 6 MOA rifle? Hell no. My off-the-rack 91/30 can do 4 MOA with a loose front sight, my crappy shooting skills, and ultra-slow gallery cast lead handloads (think .22lr velocity ammo).

With the new sight, milsurp ammo, and practice, I expect to get at least 3 MOA out of it, maybe 2.

 

[G.A.Pster]

Wouldn’t a lee-Enfield be a better gun? It has a larger magazine capacity, is often more accurate, and is the fastest bolt action to run (or so I’ve heard).

 

[jws527]

Wouldn’t a lee-Enfield be a better gun? It has a larger magazine capacity, is often more accurate, and is the fastest bolt action to run (or so I’ve heard).

Yes, but you won't find an SMLE or even a Mk.4 for close to $70.

 

[hankdatank1362]

So your question is: Is one of the most popular rifles in the world, that is probably second only to the Kalashnikov in it's pedigree and wartime success, that fires the most inexpensive widely-available full-power centerfire rifle cartridge, that's so simple that illiterate conscripts, children, and untrained women can use it effectively, that is brutally reliable and more than accurate for just about anything short of precision sniping at distance, and is available for under $100 is worth it?

No. Do not buy that rifle.

Instead, call up AIM surplus, and ask if they are still running the special on M44s (or was it 91/30s?) by the crate. Buy a crate. Or two.

Hand them out to friends and family, or use them as trade fodder, when the zombie apocalypse comes.

Oh, it's coming alright.

 

[Ignition Override]

Wedge:
A woodworking owner mistakenly broke a barrel retainer spring on one of my MN 44s when he was sanding/staining the wood,
and a guy in Las Vegas sells various spare parts for old military rifles.

Wish I knew his name in Vegas, but somebody will have it written down.
It cost only about $8 for two of the springs. Maybe somebody on 'Perfectunion' (SKS forum) or 'Thefiringline' has it, if not, 'Gunandgame'.

The 44s are so much easier to maneuver in the house or carry on your shoulder etc between/under tree branches. And the bayonet is always attached, just in case.
The 91/30 and first 44 came from 'Classicarms inc' last December.
and except from numerous small dark spots in the forward parts of the wood finish, they were in perfect shape.

 

[dougestyle]

True, there were alot of sniper shots made with the Nagant back in WW2, but there is also a sniper version of this weapon. A version were not really talking about. The regular ones made some good shots too I'm sure. But the guns were relatively new then, had not been counterbored, and were probably cleaned after using corrosive ammo. There are alot of people who buy a $100 gun and don't clean them at all, even after using corrosive ammo. Lets face it, the Mosin can be a pretty abused weapon. Most will do better than the 4-6 MOA I mentioned, but not all will. Like the other guy said, better than that is just gravy. I'm not trying to down the Mosin at all, I have several. In fact, I've gotta go....think I'll take a deer with mine this evening.

 

[X9ballX]

alright i ordered an m44 mosin nagant.well had the local gunshop owner order me the best one he could find for 150$ anyways if comes with all the WW2 gear but the thing is i want to put a modern scope on it. o and is the ammo corosive

 

[COMPNOR]

Most surplus is corrosive. You can find non-corrosive ammo, but its generally a bit pricier.