Halo
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The thing about the M44 is, even if your shot failed to put down the enemy, that big old pig sticker on the end of it would surely put them in a world of hurt.
Mosins: Do You Like Them?
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Everyone overstates the fireball, and intentionally shoots heavy ball or the flashiest commercial ammo to emphasize this characteristic.
When the M-44 is loaded with 148gr (white-tip) light-ball ammo, as it's supposed to be for combat, is a very manageable rifle.
When the M-44 is loaded with 148gr (white-tip) light-ball ammo, as it's supposed to be for combat, is a very manageable rifle.
kBob
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I just have the one M1944 Izzy that was given to me as a gift ages ago. Yes I did it correctly and went to the dealer myself and did the paper work so I know they paid too much for it, $150 but that was over 20 years ago, they were not that common, but would be with in two years (who knew) and I had commented to the gift giver earlier that it was interesting.
WHen Chinese ammo became avalable I shot it a bit with Chinese silver tip. My first shot was from a kneeling possition. Several friends standing behind me, all center fire rifle shooters and handgunners, thought the rifle had exploded when I fired it. THey reported that the fire ball was visible as something like a halo around my head, that sweat flew from my hair and dust lept from my back. I did not think it was that bad.....but I had been shooting a very hot and heavy loaded .45-70 Marlin lever action earlier in the day.
I shot when ever the urge hit and a friend gave me some of the Hanson ammo when it was comming in before the break up of Yugoslavia ( I later owned a Yugo BTW) This seemed to give me better accuracy, but it has been a long time. Most recently I shot it with some East German plastic cored training ammo. It hit the backstop repeatedly at 100 yards. To me the plastic core training ammo sounded louder than the other ammo, but that could have been a function of sound and over pressure thresholds on my hearing protection.
For whatever reason my rifle does not like strippers. It appears that the extractor is so long it enterfeers with the loading and I have been able to use strippers by disingaing the bolt from its stop and pulling it a hair further back....making stripper loading slow and iffy as in iffy I drop the bolt from the rifle I will be more agrivated than having to load single rounds.
If you want fireballs, a sore shoulder, premature deafness, and a busted knuckle trade your M-S on a Spanish 7x57 Cavalry carbine today. FOr me the felt recoil (purely subjective) is worse on an unmodified FR-8 than an M-S YM (and body shape and hold)MV.
FOr the cost I think a M-S is a good rifle and beats the snot out of no center fire rifle at all when you need one.
Fortunately mine was not behind the seat of the pick up on the way home this morning when one of the biggest, nicest looking local white tail bucks I have seen here abouts was just standing on the right of way. (no shooting or loaded guns on right of way, no shooting from vehicle, no out of season deer harvesting allowed) He was however still in velvet for this year. I hope he makes it across the highway or stays off the right of way incase some one with little will power and a rifle in the truck does come by. I feel confident that the M44 and one of those remaining Hanson soft points would have been more than capable of making a harvest, even if I would not have done it any way.
-Bob Hollingsworth
WHen Chinese ammo became avalable I shot it a bit with Chinese silver tip. My first shot was from a kneeling possition. Several friends standing behind me, all center fire rifle shooters and handgunners, thought the rifle had exploded when I fired it. THey reported that the fire ball was visible as something like a halo around my head, that sweat flew from my hair and dust lept from my back. I did not think it was that bad.....but I had been shooting a very hot and heavy loaded .45-70 Marlin lever action earlier in the day.
I shot when ever the urge hit and a friend gave me some of the Hanson ammo when it was comming in before the break up of Yugoslavia ( I later owned a Yugo BTW) This seemed to give me better accuracy, but it has been a long time. Most recently I shot it with some East German plastic cored training ammo. It hit the backstop repeatedly at 100 yards. To me the plastic core training ammo sounded louder than the other ammo, but that could have been a function of sound and over pressure thresholds on my hearing protection.
For whatever reason my rifle does not like strippers. It appears that the extractor is so long it enterfeers with the loading and I have been able to use strippers by disingaing the bolt from its stop and pulling it a hair further back....making stripper loading slow and iffy as in iffy I drop the bolt from the rifle I will be more agrivated than having to load single rounds.
If you want fireballs, a sore shoulder, premature deafness, and a busted knuckle trade your M-S on a Spanish 7x57 Cavalry carbine today. FOr me the felt recoil (purely subjective) is worse on an unmodified FR-8 than an M-S YM (and body shape and hold)MV.
FOr the cost I think a M-S is a good rifle and beats the snot out of no center fire rifle at all when you need one.
Fortunately mine was not behind the seat of the pick up on the way home this morning when one of the biggest, nicest looking local white tail bucks I have seen here abouts was just standing on the right of way. (no shooting or loaded guns on right of way, no shooting from vehicle, no out of season deer harvesting allowed) He was however still in velvet for this year. I hope he makes it across the highway or stays off the right of way incase some one with little will power and a rifle in the truck does come by. I feel confident that the M44 and one of those remaining Hanson soft points would have been more than capable of making a harvest, even if I would not have done it any way.
-Bob Hollingsworth
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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The Mosin's almost perfect for deer hunting if you find the right rounds. It will (aimed right that is) drop bambi in a single shot.
The Deer Hunter
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Only one.
A 1944 Hungarian M44
$150
Maybe a 91/30 or something down the road...But probably not.
I could...But no I do not.
Nugilum
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OK, here I go breaking one of my cardinal rules...
) with all the appropriate accessories
I have Three
M44 (Izzy 1944), M91/30 (Tula 1939), and M91 (New England Westinghouse 1915 - low serial number
) with all the appropriate accessoriesM44 - $120, M91/30 - $99, M91 - $40
After some pondering, I believe no
No. I'll pay the mercenaries (butcher shops) for my meat
Funderb
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straight bolt slower than a turned COC bolt? no way!
hah, just kidding. They are a tough package to be fast with, that's for sure.
hah, just kidding. They are a tough package to be fast with, that's for sure.
Sound Dude
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MNs? Oh Yeah.
How Many Mosins do you Own?
35 (it's a sickness)
Which Models Do You Have?
Let's see:
91 - 3
91/30 - 8
91/M39 (Finnish) - 9
91/59 - 1
44 - 14 1-Polish, 1-Romanian, 7-Hungarian, 5-Russian
and an SVT-40 (not a mosin)
How Much Did You Pay for Your Mosins?
The M39s - 3 for $99. You read that right. My only regret is I didn't buy more at that price! All are in fantastic shape. My favorite MN variant.
The 44's - anywhere from $30 to $66 ea.
The 91/30 - anywhere from $35 to $55
(Back when a C&R could really buy a bargain!)
Do You Want More Mosins?
Yes - but given today's prices, I'm picky.
Do You Hunt with Your Mosins?
I took an M39 elk hunting once. It does gets heavy.
The recoil isn't so bad. If you want a sore shoulder fast, shoot a Styer M95 straight-pull carbine in 8x56R. Even my 275lb, 6'7" brother had his butt kicked by that gun!
How Many Mosins do you Own?
35 (it's a sickness)
Which Models Do You Have?
Let's see:
91 - 3
91/30 - 8
91/M39 (Finnish) - 9
91/59 - 1
44 - 14 1-Polish, 1-Romanian, 7-Hungarian, 5-Russian
and an SVT-40 (not a mosin
)How Much Did You Pay for Your Mosins?
The M39s - 3 for $99. You read that right. My only regret is I didn't buy more at that price! All are in fantastic shape. My favorite MN variant.
The 44's - anywhere from $30 to $66 ea.
The 91/30 - anywhere from $35 to $55
(Back when a C&R could really buy a bargain!)
Do You Want More Mosins?
Yes - but given today's prices, I'm picky.
Do You Hunt with Your Mosins?
I took an M39 elk hunting once. It does gets heavy.
The recoil isn't so bad. If you want a sore shoulder fast, shoot a Styer M95 straight-pull carbine in 8x56R. Even my 275lb, 6'7" brother had his butt kicked by that gun!
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