Mossberg 590 w/ ghost sights 18" 9 shots..

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A little over $400.. good deal or bad? I'm not sure but i think there was a 1 after the 590, either that or it was A1.. i could be wrong but this gun looked sweet. I've been wanting to get those exact same sights on my express but it's hard to find here in CA, i'd have to go online and browse. Can someone tell me why this gun cost more than the 870 express? Is it just the sights or is it better made?
 
Yes!

That's about what I paid for my plain 590 a few years ago, and for the money I don't think you can beat that shotgun with a stick. The A1's are generally more expensive, due to the ghost ring sights.

The 590 has a steel receiver versus the 500's aluminum, and I'm not sure what the 870's receiver is made out of. I like the layout of the Mossbergs better, but your mileage may vary...
 
the 590A1 is the military shotgun, with ghost rings and a heavy barrel. I was not aware that the 590s have a steel barrel, I know the Remington has a steel barrel. Also the 590A1 had the steel trigger group and run about $450 on gunbroker.com
 
Eh?

They all have steel barrels. I think Mossbergs have aluminum receivers, but it doesn't seem to actually hurt anything.

I'd say go for it, I paid $403 all told for my 590.
 
Stiletto Null,

No, it sure doesn't.

If it did, the M16s wouldn't have been around this long, would they.



silent knight,

I paid more than that for my 590A1 and don't mind at all...it's a fine weapon.



Merry Christmas,

-- John D.
 
Gosh I feel stupid! The 870s have a steel REICER and the 500s have an aluminum RECIVER. I never hurd anything about the 590s though.
 
I have a 590. It is great shotgun in my humble opinion.

The difference between the 590 and 590A1 are as such: The A1 has a metal trigger guard and tang safety- the 590 has polymer trigger guard and tang safety. That is the only difference as far as I know. These small differences are to satisfy military requirements I assume.

Also, regular 590's do have ghost sights- mine does. Something else I have noticed is that the receiver of A1's will have "590A1" on them. Regular ones have no such equivalent marking. My 590 has dual extractor claws as well. :D
 
Good price. I don' think you get 8+1 in an 18" configuration. I thought the 590 was a 20" barrel.
 
Mossberg/Aluminum Reciever/John Moses Browning

I found this a while back on Shotgunworld. Very interesting:

"How can the aluminum receiver of the Mossberg stand the shock of firing? By not taking it. Unlike many of its contemporary competive designs, the Mossberg bolt did not lock into the receiver to fire. Rather, it locked into an extension of the barrel. Much of the cost of the Winchester Model 12 and the Ithaca M-37 came from the need to precisely machine the receiver from a block of steel. The receiver has to be steel, because the bolt locks to the receiver when closed. The bolt had to be machined to a precise length. The locking recess in the receiver has to be machined to an exact location. The receiver walls have to be thick enough to take the load. On the Winchester 97, the carrier is also the locking block. The carrier, its pivot pin, and the receiver where the pin rests have to be
strong enough to take the load. On the Mossberg 500, the bolt locks into an extension fastened to the barrel. The critical dimensions are the distance from the locking recess to the chamber, and the distance from the locking block in the bolt and the bolt face. Both are easily measured (in the factory) and kept to a precise figure. The aluminum receiver only acts as a cover and guide to the moving parts, and does not have to take any of the forces of the firing except to transmit the force of recoil to the shooter.

If this was such a great idea, why did it wait until 1961 (year Mossberg 500 came out; August) to come about? It didn't. The locking mechanism is the same method used by John Moses Browning in the A-S. Browning also used it in a number of different pump actions he designed. So why didn't other manufacturers use it? Browning had the patents. By the time the patents had expired, many manufacturers had been making their models for years or decades. The customers expected a particular design, the tooling was paid for, and the cost and risk of switching was too high. Remington switched to the barrel extension in 1950 with the 870, and pulled it off. Winchester switched in 1964 with the 1200 and almost foundered. Their customer were not ready to have an icon of beauty and shotgun shooting like the model 12 replaced with an industrial tool like the Winchester model 1200.

Mossberg didn't have to worry about the patents, they had long expired."
 
Truth. That's what the Funky Widget (accept no substitutes) with the square hole is sticking out of the chamber end of your Mossberg barrel... is.
 
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