Mossberg Patriot

[JackSprat]

I think Mossberg really tried to build a rifle that was just a step ahead of the rest of the budget rifles with the Patriot,but they also are trying to sell them a little higher,and when someone is looking for a budget rifle they usualy want to spend as little as they can.Savage Axis,and Ruger American are both gleaning off their companys well earned reputation for good rifles,and Mossberg is still trying to live down the black mark the ATR gave them..I would buy one used in a heartbeat if priced right .If you can get one for $239 I would say it's a steal,I think they are probably pretty decent.Mossberg would have been a lot better off if they would have sold their junk like the ATR,and Plinkster under some other name.

 

[Shawn.54]

I have 1 Ruger American in 22-250 2 Edge/ Axis both in 7mm-08 and 1 Mossberg Patriot in 375 Ruger. All feed well all shoot well under 1" and with the exception of the Axis fair weather all do what I want "put a bullet where I want it "for a low price I know of rifles that cost more and don't do their job any better. The only reason I got the Patriot in the first Place was the Cartridge interested me now that I have it and have worked with it I would buy another. I do buy my guns to hunt not to look at my wood stocks have dings and scratches including my $1200 flintlock I just don't feel as bad when I ding and scratch a $350
Rifle. And if I wasn't such a boneheaded Mc I would ship The Axis back to the factory and have them put it in a freezer for a while before they tested it.

 

[1stmarine]

For extreme cold it is a good idea to take the entire group apart and clean it dry. then use some specialty lube on key areas.
It is a good idea a good prior to use cleaning regardless. Factory might come dripping in oil that might not be the best choice specially if it gums up with cold.
This happens to a huge number of firearms if not properly prepared for extreme cold weather.

 

[Shawn.54]

I have tried light oil no oil dry lube. Thing that gets me is that the spring is two pieces is that normal for Savage? I have cleaned all burrs on pin and cross pin that holds head on bolt. And as a machinist if I turned in finished parts like that I would be looking for a job. It doesn't take extreme weather 28 degrees is all.

 

[1stmarine]

I suspect something else is going on there with your group.
The axis is used in the north winters all the way to the arctic to hunt just like any other savage, remington and other brands and models.

 

[Shawn.54]

The older rifle works great. I should open it up and see how it's spring is. But it works so I don't touch it.

 

[LoonWulf]

did some quick google foo....looks like they are two piece springs now. I havent taken my 11s bolt apart, but i remeber my old 110 having a single piece spring. seems to be a semi common issue, enough so that i quickly pulled up a few post regarding light strikes, most posters suggested just shimming the spring up.

 

[1stmarine]

I would start by taking everything apart and giving a good cleaning. Perhaps a light pass with an emery cloth and
dump the parts in acetone. then re-lube so slightly with your favorite choice and reassemble.
Anything wrong like a simple burr should be obvious. It is not like they are rocket science.

The double spring gives a smoother function and more consistent release. springs have elasticity limits by combining them you can
change the pressure curve.

 

[LoonWulf]

The double spring gives a smoother function and more consistent release. springs have elasticity limits by combining them you can
change the pressure curve.

Good point, didnt think of that....if cleaning and light lubing dosent solve the issue would shimming be harmful? Ive only ever worked with double springs on vehicles and those are all solid units we never messed with.

 

[1stmarine]

IMO any budget rifle might needs some tendering and perhaps a stock upgrade to get rid of the Tupperware stocks they call come whit.
I think when you take things apart as far as they can go any issues would become obvious. I mean full stripping.
If you have another one that works you can take it apart aside w/o mixing things but will give you a nice reference.
I would be surprised if anything is out of spec but I would look for the obvious like enough firing pin protrusion.
If it is a generation 1 you might take advantage and retrofit the trigger that very easily and inexpensively becomes a good one.
For the generation 2 this is not needed anymore.
Full stripping and doing simple upgrades gives anyone a fun opportunity to get acquainted with the rifle mechanics and function of their rifles.

 

[godale]

i always though the stevens 200 was the best budget gun.stock was cheezy but you got a nice savage 110 action for a good price.