Most annoying Gun Myths

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So there I was at a Cabela's today and I overheard several conversations that just made me grind my teeth in frustration. My favorite was the skinny little girl who was looking for something for home protection, but didn't know what she wanted, but claimed to be a firearms expert because "I was in the military. As a matter of fact, I was a gunner."

The salesman then decided to show her a pump action shotgun that I did not see, I only heard the ensuing conversation.

Shotgun: "Ch-Chunk"

Salesman: "Hear that? That's all you need. If someone breaks into your house and they hear that you won't even have to fire a shot."

I think that advice is, at best, gross negligence. This is one of my most hated gun myths or pop-culture confusions. What Gun Shop myths have you overheard that make you want to...:banghead:?
 
Back in the LEO days, I constantly heard the story about how an officer ch-chunked one time upon entering an unlawfully entered building and the BG called out "I give up" and came out of hiding. But I certainly would not count on it. Never did find out who said officer actually was.

I hate that one and the one about a .45 in the shoulder either spinning someone around as they die or blowing their arm off. This one has kind of disappeared but occassionally you still hear it.
 
My favorite: "That old 30-30 is obsolete, I don't understand why you even carry it. It couldn't knock down a deer at 50 yards. You NEED a .300 Mag. for deer!!!"
I'm betting you have heard that too.
 
Not so much a myth, but I've seen at least two cop shows over the past ten years or so where SWAT shot the gun out of a bad guy's hand. If they keep that up, lib-idiots will expect all police to "aim for the gun hand." Afterall, that's how the Late, Great John Wayne used to do it! No reason to be killing that gun-toting bad buy, now, is there?:barf:
 
^^^^^

While we're at it, flamethrowers.

So I can blow your stomach onto the ground with a shotgun but I can't kill you with liquid fire?
 
My favorite not true gun myth is that hollowpoints are cop-killer bullets that are deadlier than normal FMJs.
 
that the 2nd amendment is for the national guard and not for the rights of the individual.

actually I think that would be considered more of a lie than a myth.
 
My favorite: "That old 30-30 is obsolete, I don't understand why you even carry it. It couldn't knock down a deer at 50 yards. You NEED a .300 Mag. for deer!!!"
I'm betting you have heard that too.
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Ain't that the truth. They tried that to my cousin and said you couldn't hit anything at a 100 yards with a 30-30 round and needed one of their fancy high calibre rifles. So he bet them all $20 he could hit a target at that distance and did so through the old iron sights and took $140 of them. They then cried when they tried and somehow didn't know their scopes had been set to 400 yards and were all hitting above the target. That seems to happen alot it seems around the country.
 
Any Hollywood stunt that depicts guns defying the laws of physics. Like firing a rifle at a car and the hood flying open. My favorite is the A-Team shooting at a Jeep causing it to veer off the road and spiral over a convenient mount of dirt that is suspiciously ramp-like in appearance.
 
My favorite: "That old 30-30 is obsolete, I don't understand why you even carry it. It couldn't knock down a deer at 50 yards. You NEED a .300 Mag. for deer!!!"
I'm betting you have heard that too.
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I heard one similar at a Gander Mountain.

Guy asks, "Which rifle should I buy, a 30-06, or a .300WSM?"

Salesman, "Oh, absolutley buy the .300."

Guy, "Why, what's the diff?"

Salesman, "Well, its more."

Guy, "What do you mean more? Is it bigger?"

Salesman, "No they are the same caliber, its just more."

:rolleyes:
 
I don't know if the ch chunk would work every time but I do know it worked when someone was trying to come in my house. As my brother put it the bg instinctivly knew he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and fled. the cops picked him up a few blocks away and he was outraged that they wouldn't arrest me for "trying to kill him"
 
.45 will blow a man off his feet

Semi Auto spraying bullets

Too many to even mention about shotguns.

Pretty much everything on TV and in the movies about guns
 
Shooting a car anywhere behind the doors with a rifle or handgun will cause the gas tank to explode and send the car flipping through the air.

A bullet in the radiator stops a car almost instantly.

5 bad guys can spray down a 5 foot alley with full autos, miss everything and the hero spins around with a handgun and 5 shots later the bad guys are all dead.

"If you get shot in the hand with a .357 Magnum or .44 Magnum it will tear your whole arm off at the shoulder." - Heard this one more than once

"An M16 can hit you in the foot and come out the back of your neck because the bullet is designed to tumble."
 
One of my biggest gun pet pieves is the way sales people in gunstores think they know more about guns than every customer they have just because they work behind a counter.

For example, I was in a local gunstore looking for Lake City Federal ammo the other day. I had called the day earlier and talked with a female emplyee that gave me a price on some they had in stock. When I went in that day to get it I had 2 sales people swear up and down to me that Federal XM 193 is NOT made in Lake City. There is a town named Lake City just 45 miles North of the Gainesville area. I tried to explain to them that it was Lake City Missori I was talking about. I even went as far as to show them the LC headstamp. But no, they are the gun experts not me. :banghead:
 
Any coating, whether Lubalux, Nylon or Moly being inevitably referred to as Teflon and undoubtedly added to help defeat LEO body armor.
This myth really gets me steamed as it's the epitome of mindless "aping".

Speaking of coatings, some of our own, perhaps even some here, are still under the assumption that Winchester's black-Lubalux-coated Black Talon was pull from the civilian market by the Federal Government. Nope, not even close.
It was a decision by Winchester to protect their image and silience the mouth-foaming mindless morons who continuously described Black Talons as "PTFE-clad-cop-killers".

Depending on one's locale, there may be State or municipal statutes banning them from civilian use, but folks... the Feds never pulled Black Talons from the shelves, there are no Federal laws banning the sale, use or ownership of Winchester Black Talons and the "Law Enforcement Only" inclusion on boxes of Winchester Rangers is corporate policy only to satisfy the rabid bug-nut antis.
 
Here's a list of Myths & just plain old Annoyances


Annoyances:
  • Gun-shop Bubas.
  • "Mags" being called "Clips".
  • 1000 Rounds is a "Lot" of Ammo. (then why dosn't it last longer than it does?)
  • Simi-Auto's being misrepresented as Full-Auto's. (IE the Brady camp & VPC)
  • The 9mm vs .45 "my cal is better than yours" war...
  • People who think all newbies can only start out with .22's.
  • Anyone who thinks the Tec 9 is even a marginally good gun. (A steaming pile of dog crap is more dangerous)
  • Gun-shop "you don't want that, you can't shoot skeet with it" bozos.
  • Any round capable of penetrating crappy LEO body armor being called a "Cop Killer" Round.:barf:

Myths:
  • Shooting to wound.
  • You can't Hunt with a .223.
  • 1000 Rounds is "allot" Of Ammo.
  • The Infamous "Porcelain" glock. :rolleyes:
  • Teflon Coated "Cop Killer" Bullets.
  • Guns that Shoot people all on their own.:rolleyes:
  • Claims that .50 BMG rifles are Anti-Tank Rifles.
  • Claims that a .50 BMG rifle can shoot down an airliner.
  • Claims that a .50 BMG round can kill you even if it misses you.:rolleyes: (& I got a bridge I can sell ya on mars)
  • Claims that the .44 Magnum can "Blow a mans head Clean off".:rolleyes:
  • Claims that Gang-bangers can hit anything shooting a pistol sideways.
  • Claims that AK's & AR15's can be shot from the Hip with 100% accuracy.
  • Claims that Gun owners go around shooting people for little or no reason.:barf:
  • "Sniper Rifles" that can kill people from several Miles away and never miss.
  • Claims that the 2nd Amendment is only about Hunting or shooting Skeet.

I could go on for hours/pages.....
 
That the .223/5.56 round was adopted to wound not kill the enemy so their fellow soldiers would be slowed down by caring for their wounded.

That the .223 can go in your toe and come out of your head.

That the Geneva convention states you cant target personell with a .50BMG round, but it is ok to aim at the enemies helmets, belt buckle, etc.

Anything about shotguns, but my biggest gripe with then is people claiming you dont need to aim with one.

The media calling semi-automatics "automatic" just to put fear in the hearts of sheeple everywhere.

People who think the 2nd Ammendment has anything to do with hunting, or that it only grants the right to arms to the National Guard......which last time I checked wasnt a "Militia".

That pistol grips make a rifle more dangerous because they make shooting from the hip easy, and we all know how accurate that is.

That bayonete lugs make a rifle more deadly, and banning guns with them would put a stop to all the drive by bayonetings.

I will stop here but I could go on :banghead:
 
Some of these have already been alluded to:

- "A bullet (shot from a gun) can knock someone off their feet." (No true.)

- "The bullet's kinetic energy equals the recoil energy." (No true.)

- Anyone who mutters "hydrostatic shock" or "energy dumping" doesn't know what they're talking about.

- "Militias are full of crazy, toothless, right-wing rednecks bent on overthrowing the government." (Not true. I'm a member of one.)

- "The Second Amendment gives us the right to keep and bear arms." (No it doesn't. The right to keep and bear arms existed long before our Constitution was ever conceived.)

- "Full-auto weapons are illegal for civilians to own." (Not true.)

- "For handguns rounds, bullet expansion is the most important factor when it comes to lethality." (Not true. Depth of penetration is the most important factor.)

- "The Glock doesn't have a safety." (Not true. Anyone who claims this doesn't understand the purpose of a safety.)

- "A handgun must be pointed, not aimed." (Not true. Unless the target is extremely close, the sights should be used.)


And then there are annoyances, like:

- Calling a magazine a "clip".

- Referring to cartridges as "bullets." (Example: "I'm going to load bullets into the gun.")

- Referring to a semi-auto rifle w/ pistol grip & detachable magazine as an "assault rifle." (An assault rifle is a select-fire weapon. What they mean is an assault weapon. But I don't even like that term, as it was invented by antis. I prefer "Homeland Defense Rifle".)
 
I was watching a TV show last night which was about a self defense shooting that happened on a hiking trail in AZ? I didn't catch the whole thing.

The shooter was convicted of 2nd degree murder, but one of the things that struck me is the interview with a couple of the people on the jury.

The women brought up that old crap about the shooter using "hollow points" . She apparently bought into the portrail that anyone who used hollow points were just out to kill someone.(the myth)

This is a dangerous mind set to face for all of us who believe in self defense and I wondered why the defense failed to dispense this idea in the minds of the jury.

Maybe I am incorrect but don't many LEO's carry hollow point ammo in their duty guns ? Wouln't it be somewhat effective to get an LEO on the stand in such cases and ask him why they carry hollow points ? I get the impression most defense attorneys are gun dumb and do not prepare a proper response to such crap.

Not sure what this jurer expected people to save their lives with when it comes to having to shoot somebody - maybe she thinks there are nurf bullets that are effective ?
 
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