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The funny thing is nobody wears any of that scent lock ultra camo mossy cant see me hear me in the woods **** out here. Seems like its only heated blind-food plot-deer bait-every product I can buy whitetail hunters that do that.

End rant, this is a rant thread of sorts right:cuss:

Edit: I know TV gives you guys a bad name
 
To the guy who says leupold scopes are not as good but does not own one.... YOU CANNOT JUDGE A SCOPE IN THE STORE!!!!!! Yes Zeiss scopes are good, except I broke two brand new ones in one week in Africa, I was luckey my PH had a Leupold on hand, I got to finish the hunt. Point is you will hear good and bad about everything, but with optics it is very much you get what you pay for. Now if you don't own a scope you would not be able to tell, but for those of us who have been looking through scopes in the rain, snow, sleet, and almost darkness, yes I can notice a differance. My Kahles is better that my Leupoulds or Ziess. My Sightron is great to. Far tomany foolish people spend way to much on a rifle and then put a chepo scope in junk rings. It is stupid. I would rather put a schmit & Bender on a savage, than to have an Empire Rifle with a Tasco, or Bushnell on it. People do though. You should spend as much or more on the scope as you do on the rifle. Ask any firearms expert and they will say the same thing. But as a note don't you think that there are reasons why todays military snipers use Leupold, Scmit & Bender, US Optics, & Night Force. Over rate?? Well maybe overrated for the mall ninja, but the hard men use what works.
 
Kimber rifles. What can it do that a Savage, Remington, or Winchester can't do just as well for hunting purposes?
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Ditto that. If I had a dollar for every thread I have encountered online over the past 5 years started by some guy who just purchased a new Kimber rifle and can't get it to shoot as well as a 300 dollar bargain basement rifle, I would have enough cash to buy a rifle. But it wouldn't be a Kimber.

Scent-Lock and Scentblocker camo would be tied for first with me as well. I wouldn't just call it overrated I'd go as far as calling it a straight up fraud. The amount of activated carbon in the lining of these things is so scant that it would be totally saturated in a matter of days. If it was exposed to open air in the store then it is probably already saturated at the time of purchase. And it "CAN NOT" be reactivated by a household dryer. That's pure BS!!
 
MCGUNNER I take exception to the Jeep one. Whenever you ready for me to prove that one wrong I will take you for Jeep ride you'll likely never forget.:) I will admit that JEEP stands for Just Empty Each Pocket though.
 
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So far scent blocker/scent lok clothing leads the race with 8 votes. Leopold, and cover scents/ attractants are tied for second with 4, and Browning rifles, Kimber rifles, and Remington all have three.

Rant on folks. Let it all out.
 
Dont understand why Leupold is mentioned so often. I consider them a "good quality" scope on the low end of the spectrum of "excellent" scopes. Can someone enlighten me?
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MCGUNNER I take exception to the Jeep one. Whenever you ready for me to prove that one wrong I will take you for Jeep ride you'll likely never forget. I will admit that JEEP stands for Just Empty Each Pocket though.
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Okay for a toy if you ain't gonna put many miles on it. My bud has one that chunked a timing chain on us just puttin' to his farm. :rolleyes: I have known many more Jeep owners and all of 'em are decent mechanics by now, if not to start out, LOL! I had to follow one of my friends home in my 4x4 170,000 mile Toyota when his 70K Jeep tossed second and high gear out in west Texas. He also had an injector stick on that thing just out of warranty. He actually thought he could use it for transportation, as in trips and commuting, LOL! I know there are a lot of Jeep fanciers out there. If I had one, I'd put a chevy small block in it. Might guzzle gas, but at least it'd be half way reliable.

Nah, Detroit is bankrupt for a reason. I say, let 'em sink! That's how business works. You make junk, the competition makes quality, you lose. You can only get so far on "buy American".

Far as Leupold goes, I don't think they're bad scopes at all. No, they are quality scopes, just over hyped and over priced IMHO. I'm poor. I can't go buying 3K scopes like a guy in the gun club I know that owns nothing, but Schmidt and Bender. I like Weavers, priced well and as good as any Vari X 2. I have a Weatherby Supreme 3x9x44 that I got for $150. I should have bought 2 of 'em, great scope. I have a Bushnell Trophy that's been pretty impressive and is budget priced at not much over 100 bucks. It's no Leupold, but it gets the job done. I don't have a lot of choice on my income and frankly what do I need a Schmidt and Bender for, anyway, just to drive down to my place and sit in a stand and watch a feeder? Heck, if I could fly to Africa in my Leer Jet on weekends, I'd have 200K in a rig and not think twice. I'd sneer at Leupold and own nothing, but Schmidt and Bender, myself! I only gave 30K for the house I live in and it took me 12 years to pay it off! :rolleyes:

Anyway, I have to watch for quality for less when I shop. I don't buy Leupold because I can get better for less or as good for less, or maybe not as good, but adequate, for a lot less. A Weaver type scope or maybe slightly better is all I need, though. since I'm usually 30 minutes from home, not exactly in Africa on safari. There are a lot of people like me, though, that buy the hype and pay the price for the name rather than shop for the values, what will do the job, but for less. That's how the market works. Me, I like to keep my credit card balance down. Never know when I'll have to use it to fix an AC or buy a washer or something. :rolleyes:
 
I will give you the good mechanics thing. I have learned a lot more about rebuiling stuff in the garage or out in the feild than I ever wanted to. One of these days I want a fuel injected 5.7. Built jeep tough with some chevy stuff. They are also not the greatest rigs to hunt out of if there is more than just you. Not the roomiest of hunting rigs, but when they are running they will get you where you wanted to go just never could.
 
Camo patterns
I wear an old set of BDUs and they work just fine.
 
Scent-Blocker clothing products:

for sure. but if it makes you feel good.or lucky like a bunny foot in your pocket then more power to you.
 
I don't really see how one can say a $200 leupold vx-1 3x9 is a bad buy. Plain and simple, the scope is going to last forever.

Please someone explain to me how that is a bad buy. Please.
 
I don't really see how one can say a $200 leupold vx-1 3x9 is a bad buy. Plain and simple, the scope is going to last forever.

Please someone explain to me how that is a bad buy. Please.
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Or sub $500 for a 3-9 VXIII for that matter. That's a NICE scope. I'e got 2 and and I don't feel I've overpayed at all. Never lost zero even with rough handling, and the Zeiss that I've looked through aren't any better w.r.t sight picture, clarity, and light gathering.

I feel like I'm getting Zeiss or Swarovski quality for pretty darn cheap.
 
To all,

I noticed that Kimber rifles came up more than once as being over rated and in my experiance I find that to be incorrect.

I have a battery of pre 64 M70, M99's, ZB Brno's etc and I have been handloading and hunting since 1953.

Due to my age I wanted lighter hunting rifles so I began to buy Kimbers and I now have four. I find these Kimber 84M's and 8400's to be ideal, accurate and reliable.

Thanks.
 
In reality its more of a Ford vs Dodge vs Chevy thread. What some folks find over rated others will find totally practical. Besides we all know that Ford is the best.
 
My Jeep has 135K on it, it's 10 years old (I bought it new) and it runs great, on and off the pavement.

I used to have a Toyota truck. It was fine, too. Can't say there's much difference, though. Had to fix a few things on each.

Now if you're comparing an FJ-40 to an AMC CJ-7, yeah, the Toyota will certainly compare quite favorably, although neither vehicle is ideal for the street and the FJ even less so.
 
Well, I had 286,000 and change on my 82 Toyota when I sold it. It still ran, used or leaked a little oil, but it was getting too rusty to mess with. You'd have to live on the gulf coast to understand. LOL I sold it a couple of years ago after buying a 200cc street/trail type motorcycle to use when it gets to wet for the van. I really prefer motorcycles to ATVs, more portable, can ride 'em in the off season to save gas around town, other advantages even though the ATV can haul more. If the bike actually gets stuck, I can just get off and drag it out of the hole. LOL! No winch needed. I got it stuck last year dragging a hog trap. I was nearly where I wanted it, so I just dug a hole with the rear tire in the muck so I wouldn't have to put the stand down, stood up on its own. Drug the trap the last little bit to where I wanted it, then fired the bike up and just pushed it out of the hole, no sweat. :D

But, if you don't ride bikes, don't get on a dirt bike and think you're going to make it through much mud without a face plant. It definitely takes a little skill beyond the "Wild Hogs" level. :D

I don't think there's every been an internal combustion gasoline engine as tough and near indestructible as the old Toyota 22R engine. That old thing had the solid axle, manual lock outs, too. It weren't fancy at all, but I always had guys trying to buy it, would walk up in parking lots and ask.
 
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