Most popular KABOOOM gun is?

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from what i hear glocks are PERCIEVED to have a lot of kabooms, dont know if theres any truth to it
 
...don't forget that SIGs rust, 1911's jam, USP's break firing pins, Delta Elites crack their frames, and Berettas break their locking blocks right before putting the back half of the slide through your bridgework.

The faster most folks realize that all guns suck, the happier they'll be.

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Perception (I know of no good source of statistics) are that Glock .40s have more than their share, suposedly something about firing chamber not completely supporting the brass near the base. Please notice use of qualifiers.
Any gun can have a KB, but my limited understanding is that, with the exception of operator error (Wrong ammo, bad ammo, obstructed barrell etc..) KBs occur so infrequently that stats are just about impossible to compile. Each manufactorer of gun would have hard data on KBs of their guns only and would not want to talk about it and each ammo manufactorer same deal. Add in the possiblity of law suits and nobody wants to say anything.

Remember "The plural of anecdote is not evidence."

NukemJim
 
I just got my Beretta Tomcat back from the gunsmith. Firing pin broke. (I heard that was endemic.) I took it out into the forest to test fire it a bit. That little .32 has quite a bark for a mouse gun.

Dang sm, why you got to bring up Tam's comment about the Beretta locking block. Gives me the willies every time I read that, especially since I have 3 of the dang things.:eek:
 
I'll throw in my favorite

Don't forget the P22!

There have been quite a few 38/357 wheel guns taken apart by a double charge of Bulllseye.

I don't think the Glocks are that bad. You have to remember how ubiquitous they really are. I've shot a 22, still have all my fingers. Is the feed ramp cut a tad generous? You bet (didn't they revise that?). Do they have problem with firing out of battery? Potentially.

EDIT: Oh, okay. Loud?
Cheap, M44 is pretty darn good
460 sounds like a pipebomb going off
Friend has an Eagle AR15 with some sort of muzzle brake that is beyond obnoxious when you figure in cheap ammo and 30 rnd mags.
10mm with ported barrel and hand loads usually runs off a person or two in the indoor range.
MG42 has a unique loudness to it.
I would guess a 300 UM with a muzzle break would be pretty bad.

My friend kept telling me he saw a XP100 chambered in 35 Whelen. I kept asking him if he was sure. That would have been a but kicker. Turns out he confused 35 Whelen with 35 Remingon.
 
The Glock unsupported theory rears its head again.

A few years back somone on the firing line posted a picture of the Glock .40 barrel, next to several other gun barrels each with a .40 shell in them.
The bottom line was that there was little difference, and the glock was no less supported than HK, 1911, SIG, or a couple other barrels, in the feed ramp area.

The reason there were so many Kabooms with Glocks, and HKs too, is because of the .40 round, having a small margin for bullet setback before the pressure is dramatically raised.

Police tend to carry the .40 and will remove and rechamber a bullet many times, this causes setback and dramatically raises the pressures, the .40 S&W is prone to this because, the heavy bullet (180 grainers) takes up a good bit of the case volume, thus needing faster burning powder to acheive the desired velocity. As the bullet gets setback from repeated rechambering you have a compressed charge of fast burning powder, and pressures have been measured as high as 70,000 PSI in .40 S&W ammo with significant setback.

Ammo manufacturers have addressed this over time, and newer ammo is less likely to have this problem than ammo made a few years ago.

When you havea case head separation due to over pressure in a plastic framed gun like a glock or an HK you tend to get a very dramatic failure of the plastic frame. When it happens in a metal framed gun like a 1911, the shooter is less likely to experience a frame failure, so there are less pictures of a blown up 1911 frame than of a destroyed plastic frame posted online.

The other cause of Kabooms is careless reloading overcharges, and squibs that have a subsequent round fired into them by inattentive shooters.
 
Which guns kb!? The one's that get used :neener: I've seen guns from almost every maker kb so I seriously doubt this is a situation only one gun maker suffers from.
 
Glocks?

I'm not exactly a fanboy, but I think it's more of a perception than a reality. Given the number of Glocks in use, there should be an exploded Glock on every street corner. Discounting the truly junk guns from defunct companies, I don't think they is a really KB prone handgun out there.
 
grampster-

Re: Why?

Well for one Tamara is Tamara. :D

Just like "A is A". Pretty sure Tamara won't hit me for typing that. Not 100% mind you, just pretty sure.*wink*


There is NO Holy Grail in Firearms or Ammunition.
Anything mechanical can and will break.
Sure, some designs have certain characteristics that others don't.

Ammunition :
- 9x23 is one of the strongest casings for ammunition.
-.22 long rifle is the biggest seller of ammunition.
- 28 gauge is more effective, and hits harder than it is supposed to .
"A is A"

Are there some poor designs, some firearms made of inferior metals, just plain worthless? Yep.

Have Mfgs "denied" any "faults" their firearms /ammo cases may possess?. Yep.

Investigate, Educate, Try before you buy, Seek Seasoned Persons and glean knowledge of Nuances from these persons on whatever item one buys.

Loricin and RG38. These two firearms are not high on the list of being recommended, or being of great quality.

I beg to differ.
For little monies, bought used, made in-operable, and painted blue, these were two great training tools for CCW class.
Gun Safety for one, the RG worked great for holster work, retention drills and other lessons.

Before these were "customized" the Loricin was not safe, and the RG spit lead down the barrel sometimes, most times it wanted to spit lead elsewhere.
After being "customized, we never had a mis-fire, spitting of lead, Ka-boom or anything.

Don't forget Toilet Paper come off their toilet paper holders , causing toilet tissue to roll out of reach while sitting on the toilet , coffee pots will not make coffee if not turned on, light bulbs burn out and alarm clocks will not wake you if the power goes out, and there is no back up battery.


The faster folks realize most everything sucks at some point in life, the happier they will be.

;)

Apologies to Tamara.

Steve
 
[QUOTEI'm not exactly a fanboy, but I think it's more of a perception than a reality. Given the number of Glocks in use, there should be an exploded Glock on every street corner.][/QUOTE]



O.K. Have to differ in the respect that .40 S&W Glocks do come apart with lead bullets. I been shooting handgun competition since the mid eighties and have seen numerous k-booms. Four were 1911's due to ammo problems. Three others were Glock fourties. Two, I saw up close, had barrells split. One of the two destroyed the gun totally. The other split the barrel ahead of the locking bolt and did no other damage. The third I didn't see up close so I have no idea how bad but I did see the mag come out of the gun when it let loose. I assume it was a case failure.

Yes they were all using reloads and the two I got to examine were heavily leaded. Easy to see when the barrels are peeled open. Both the guys involved were experienced reloaders. Mistakes could have been made but not really likely. I suspected then as now something is/was amiss with early Glock barrels that caused excessive leading to the point of becoming an obstruction since both were split well forward of the chamber.

I own a Glock 20 with and aftermarket barrel in .40. My wifes favorite.

Got no grudge against Glocks , just my experiences.
 
Don't forget .45 lc cowboy guns like the SAA. Most of the shooters reload and it's really easy to blow one up with a double charge.

But .40 S&W Glocks had a good run for a while.
 
Semis in .40 caliber seem to KB more than others... bullet setback, higher pressures - I reckon that could be the case. The .40s a reasonably new round, too - so it could be that people are taking a 9mm and popping in a reamed-out barrel and springs.
Guns that are designed from the ground-up for a particular caliber seem to work better, in general. Walther P99s were first made, IIRC, in 9mm. The 9mms have a pretty good record - while some folks have problems with .40s. Insufficient engineering, maybe.
Then there's crazy handloaders who double and triple charge sixguns (and semis, too - but it's harder for them, since the cases tend to be a little small for that). They'd probably put wet primers in the microwave to dry 'em off. Not to be trusted.
 
If any firearms manufacturer had any product that had an abnormal predisposition to "kaboom" or explode, I'm sure there would be some information out there other than internet rumors. Sound like the exploding Pinto gas tank hysteria to me.

All skepticism aside, seems like 9mm (being more common then .40, and also relatively high pressure) would have more cases of Kaboom, but who knows, I've certainly never seen any stats on kabooms...
 
30 Carbine, 35 whelen

I had a Ruger revolver some years ago that was chambered for the 30 cal carbine. It was significantly ":what: kaboomier*" sounding that my 357's or 44's. That caliber taught me to use ear plugs under my ear muffs.
Have also used a 35 Whelen for many years & did have a fellow track me down, while I field dressing a whitetail, that wanted to know what I was shooting. Apparently the kaboom impressed him.
*:what: kaboomier = nastier sounding
 
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