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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by 94045, Apr 17, 2019.

  1. Old Dog

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    JMO, but any Makarov (PM),
    any Star (B, BM, Firestar),
    Taurus PT-92/99,
    the Astra Constable,
    CZ-82,
    any 3rd gen S&W autopistol ...
     
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    Heritage Rough Rider and the Phoenix HPA 22.

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  5. TN Outlaw

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    I think CZ in general is underrated. The average person I've spoken with doesn't even know there is a gun company called CZ and they make some of the most solid built and accurate firearms in the world. They make one of the most copied designs too. Lots of awards won with CZ or CZ base designed pistols, still largely unknown from the average person. Even old lady's know Ruger, Browning, Mauser, but not CZ.

    Heritage Rough Rider, VERY underrated.
     
  6. Jeb Stuart

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    The CZ IMO is hardly underrated. In fact quite the opposite. If you are talking about the general public, then yes, But 95% of them only rate firearms with the most advertising and the most popular crowd that know squat about a firearm.
     
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  7. TN Outlaw

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    Yes, the general public that owns firearms. People that own multiple firearms and hunt and plink pretty regularly. It surprises me how many look at me funny when I mention CZ. A few say, "yea I think I've heard of them" most have no clue.

    Their striker fired pistols and the advertising that came with them seem to have gotten their name out a little more to the general public.

    Of course the hardcore gun crowd knows about CZ's, far more people don't and that's wierd for pro gun, gun owning folk to not know of them, I think.
     
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  8. readyeddy

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    I also have a Norinco Tokarev. I agree it's accurate and dependable. The older Norinco 1911A1 that was made of railroad ties are the same. Nobody talks about these guns anymore, but I wouldn't trade.
     
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  9. Monac

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    We roll our eyes at newspaper reporters who continually say silly things about guns...but this shows how easy it is to say something that sounds silly to someone familiar with the subject. The idea of making guns out of railroad ties is ridiculous. The rails are the things you'd use for guns, even if just speaking humorously.

    I apologize for nitpicking. But I wanted to show just how easy it is to say something silly when a) you aren't very familiar with what you're talking about, and b) you're not thinking deeply about what you're saying, like when you're just making a friendly forum post, or writing to a deadline. As I've gotten older and realize how much I know nothing about, I try to cut reporters more slack.

    (Have you ever handled railroad rail? A museum I went to once had a short section you could pick up, about a foot or so. Amazingly heavy. I remembered it instantly when I picked up a Desert Eagle .44 Magnum in a gun store.)
     
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  10. readyeddy

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    Thanks for pointing out that myth.

    So it looks like the Norinco was made of 5100 series steel which made for a strong 1911.
     
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    I've made wood grips from weirder things.
     
  12. Tallball

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    "I bought the LCP II and it is night and day!"

    Me too. I really like the trigger and shoot it well. In warmer weather I carry an LCR in the cargo pocket of my shorts. In cooler weather it is an LCPII in the breast pocket of my flannel outer shirt.
     
  13. Terminatorret

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    Underrated? Most any Cold War Comm Bloc pistol. Simple, reliable, strong, accurate.
    CZ82, CZ83, P64, Bulgarian Mak, CZ52, Yugo Tokarev...flawlessly reliable.
     
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    i have a CZ P07 and a CZ Southpaw O/U- both are great guns and shoot very well. Reliability is excellent.
     
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  15. Texas10mm

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    The ties are the wooden parts between the metal rails. A pistol made of wood?
     
  16. readyeddy

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    Lol. Now I get it. Thanks guys. I learned something new today.
     
  17. John Joseph

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    I remember shooting a friend's little .25 acp Tanfoglio.
    It could shoot angle of Necco wafer at ten paces.
    Impressed the heck out of me!
     
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    I had to google "Necco wafer".
     
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    I wouldn't know either, except my father told my brother and I about shooting Necco wafers with a Stevens .22 Crackshot in New Jersey back before WWII. I was amazed when I finally saw some - I think they were about the size of a quarter. Dad admitted they were a bit larger back in the 1920's and 30's.
     
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    I’m totally serious.

    I think the most underrated handgun of all time is the Glock 19. Some might think it’s overrated. In my mind it’s the best overall handgun. Its where capability, capacity, durability, shootability, carryability, and cost meet.
     
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  21. ROCK6

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    Of the two I own, I really think the Remington RM380 and the Steyr C/M/A series. While Remington damaged their reputation, the RM380 is an excellent design (purchased design?) and right-sized .380. Steyr has always sucked with marketing, but I have an older M9-A1 that has been exceptional.

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    Are you talking about the original trigger or the revised trigger? The original double action style broke to far back for me. I liked the shorter stroke 2nd Gen double action trigger. I don't really like the LCP II trigger, as I like a more deliberate trigger in guns that small.
     
  23. Riomouse911

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    The original LCP trigger is awful. Long, heavy and doesn’t break until my trigger finger is practically wrapped around the grip.

    The LCP II trigger is 1000 times better :thumbup:.

    Stay safe.
     
  24. ATLDave

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    I think there's a whole category of guns that are underrated by most of the shooting public: competition-oriented guns (especially pistols). I'll explain my thinking:

    Most gun owners these days are drawn to the "tactical"/service-type guns (especially in pistols), or to smaller guns for carry. The number of times they will use these guns to actually shoot someone averages about zero. If they are CC'er's, they will carry their carry gun(s), but will spend a lot of time at the range shooting service-type pistols, because those are more enjoyable and easier to shoot than smaller things. They will likely keep a larger pistol by their bedside and perhaps in their vehicle.

    The service-type guns that people tend to select for these uses, and for 90+% of their actual shooting, are generally guns that are designed to: 1) be competitively priced for winning government contracts; 2) be designed to be usable to a fairly low qualification standard by a wide range of individuals (many of who don't care about shooting; and 3) be suitable for wagging around on a duty belt/rig. None of those are particularly relevant to the guy or gal looking for a gun that is the most enjoyable gun that will help them shoot their best, whether for recreation or for home defense.

    A far better fit for most actual civilian/private gun use would be, finances permitting, the competition-oriented guns that are designed around performance. Most of us would have little or no interest driving around on a daily basis in a service-grade transport or a cop cruiser. Most of us would not want to eat MRE's for dinner on the regular. I don't think it makes a whole lot more sense for most people to focus so heavily on the service-grade pistols.

    I will note that, like most shooters, I absolutely began by acquiring service-grade stuff and thinking the service-grade stuff was cool. Now, after years spent shooting competitively, I find I have very little real interest in the service-grade stuff. I think a lot of other people would similarly shift their tastes if they spent a little time shooting something nicer.
     
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  25. Mosin Bubba

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    On a related note, this is why I get very skeptical over "gun guys" who can give you every data sheet spec for a Glock or AR but look at you funny when you start talking about a Single Six. Guys who actually have experience with guns find out pretty quickly that the service stuff isn't always everything it's cracked up to be.
     
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