Mountain lion shot in Palo Alto,CA

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For those of you not familiar with CA this is a nice liberal enclave in Silicon Valley,very suburban,not rural.
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PALO ALTO (BCN) -- A series of mountain lion sightings in suburban Palo Alto Monday morning ended early Monday afternoon with a Palo Alto police officer shooting and killing the animal.

Palo Alto Police Department Detective Kara Apple said Monday that her agency got the shoot-to-kill order following a discussion with the state Department of Fish and Game and local animal control officers and naturalists.

The decision was made based on the danger posed by the animal being in such a residential neighborhood and its proximity to homes, businesses, schools and parks, she said.

"We had quite a few onlookers," Apple said. "This is about as residential as you can get."

The first report came in at about 4:45 a.m. when a delivery driver in the 500 block of Coleridge Avenue called with a mountain lion sighting. About an hour later, a couple taking their morning walk reported seeing the cat near Cedar Street and Parkinson Avenue just on the other side of Rinconada Park from the first sighting.

A third call came in around 7:40 a.m. when a caller reported seeing the mountain lion in the south end of town along Whitclem Drive about a half-hour prior to making the call.

Whitclem Drive is near the Los Altos border and nowhere near the other sightings, so while police took the report seriously, they only actively investigated the first two calls.

The 900 block of Newell Drive was put in lockdown mode at around noon after a fourth call came in. Apple said officers were conducting door-to-door and yard-to-yard searches after the lion was spotted in a resident's back yard. School officials were also notified of the sightings, as multiple schools are located in close proximity to the sightings.

The days events culminated with the final sighting - in another backyard near Walnut and Walter Hays drives, where a dog "went crazy," Apple said. The dog apparently frightened the lion into the front yard and up a tree - right next to an armed Palo Alto police officer.

The shoot-to-kill order was issued after it appeared the frightened lion was going to jump out of the tree and be on the move again. Apple said officers did not fire until receiving approval from state DFG authorities and local animal control officers.

According to those who saw the lion, it weighed between 50 and 100 pounds and was about the size of a German shepherd. Palo Alto Capt. Torrin Fischer said it is unusual for mountain lions to prowl around suburban neighborhoods.

It wasn't however, the first time a mountain lion has been spotted in the Palo Alto area. Earlier this month, two horses were attacked, likely by a mountain lion, near the Stanford University campus.

Campus officials announced that they did not plan to use deadly force against the animal, but expressed concern because the attacks occurred close to two popular hiking trails.

Mountain lions were also spotted a bit south of Palo Alto, in Pacific Grove, in March and April, where they were reportedly feeding on deer in the area. Concern was raised because lions were spotted on the grounds of the Asilomar Conference Center, very close to the Pebble Beach Golf Links. Also in March, two mountain lion cubs were killed after they wandered into a residential neighborhood in Morgan Hill.

Panic about mountain lions spread throughout California in January when two cyclists were attacked by a lion along a popular Orange County Trail. After the attack, sightings were reported statewide, including two in Dublin and one in San Jose in January. A lion was killed in Morgan Hill that month after being hit by a car.

On average, the Department of Fish and Game reports that it receives more than 400 mountain lion sighting reports each year, only 3 percent of which result in a cat actually being found to be an imminent threat to public safety and killed under the department's Wildlife Public Safety Guidelines.

Most of the reports are usually resolved by educating the public on the natural history and behavior of mountain lions, while a few are settled by modifying human behavior, such as bringing pets inside at night or installing outdoor motion detector lighting.

More than half of California is considered mountain lion habitat. In general, the animals live wherever deer are present and observe people far more often than people observe them. Studies have shown mountain lions to have a habit of avoiding humans.

The mountain lion killed Monday will likely be handed over to the state Department of Fish and Game, as is the usually the case when wild animals are killed in California.

Apple said she will gather information and provide details about Monday's incident in a news release to be issued later Monday afternoon.
 
looks like they used an "assault weapon"

looks like one of those assault weapons they allways say are useless for hunting.
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Blissninnies have no problem with these cats near schools,they will protest killing the cat.
 
Last week I was running in the forest/fire trail behind my house. It goes for miles and climbs about 800 foot. The whole time I'm listening to a guest on the Barbara Simpson Show detail how Mountain Lyons attack from cover and how difficult it is to protect yourself. The expert/guest discusses the recent attack in Orange County. He goes on to describe exactly how the Mountain Lyon dissects its prey. Not good..

This is one situation where a firearm might be of limited use.. unless you ran with gun in hand.

I bested my previous time up the hill by seven minutes. Half of the time was spent running sideways.
 
I listened to that show too

One guy called in and said "guns" and they cut him off!
They also said mtn lions "eat your face" and they only do it
to humans,I don't care what the "babe in the bunker say's"
I'm keeping my face and my gun.
 
I believe about 8-9 years ago - about the time I moved to the Bay Area, a Lion snatched a cyclist off her bike in Palo Alto, and killed her. Don't recall if the person was partially eaten or not. It rather stunned those folks in Silicon Valley/Stanford U.

I still think a few hundred Siberan Tigers would do California a lot of good. The blissninnies would decline in number, due to either being eaten or being frightened out of the state. The gun owners would remain, of course, and increase in number as a percentage of the population, thereby winning future elections and ending the stupid CA gun laws.

Makes sense, huh?
 
How unceremonial the way the carry the cat out. It should be suspended from a pole. :) I hope someone can confirm that it was a .223. It'll do nicely on a treed cat (head shot).
 
I liked the use of a certified Evil Black Rifle to save lives.

Up here, the blissninnies are trying to PREVENT the SFPD from issuing AR-15s, which Chief Fong has said they may or may not do.
 
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Why didn't the officer let the Lion get out of the tree and then stuck his arms up in the air to make himself appear larger and try to scare it back into the wild? The way I see it, if they say it's good enough for normal civilians, why not for everyone!
 
Ummm...am I seeing things, or is that about five holes behind the cat's shoulder:confused:

If so, good shooting and lousy caliber:neener:
 
Well it seems in California the legal and moral thing to do was shoot the dangerous animal. These cats need to move to the midwest they might find some people there easy to eat.
 
thats not far from where i work... didnt hear anythig about it.. good thing it wasnt los altos as their officers have mini 14's and it probly would've missed even at point blank!

too bad for the cat, just trying to do his job. but they wont do anything to stop the idiots from feeding the deer in the hills on their back porches then their surprised when cats come around.
 
Come to think of it, why wasn't the Fire Department called to help the kitty out of the tree? Isn't that what fire fighters are for and do all the time? Instead Palo Alto sends Tackleberry. :p

BTW, that lady cop has bragging rights.:cool:
 
Ummm...am I seeing things, or is that about five holes behind the cat's shoulder
I just talked with somebody who happened by the police when they were out there today. He said that they were carrying around shotguns. So, I'm guessing that that's probably a lite tactical load of 00 buckshot.
 
lets do this

. The hills above me have had sightings. there are little signs around. Lion spotted, blah, blah, blah.

I say we take a little hunting trip. Track it, make it attack one of us. will bring pipsquike, he will do it. Then stab it with our steely knives. Like the eagles song.

Just kidding. This is no biggie. They have always been here. And now that we are no longer allowed to hunt them. There are lots. I live about eight miles from Sven and were this cat was wacked. I would kick a big kitties ass. With or without a gun. No worries, weird though.

The saratoga hills have had to thin out all the hogs. They are ripping up the yuppies gardens. And anywere in the bay area foothills and in towns. There are herds of unhunted deer. Not to mentions and all the other critters. All cat chow. I say we call in Ted nugent.
 
The local station had a story on this on the 11 o'clock news tonight. I transcribed it for y'all.

Reporter: "Dana, the top story tonight is about a cat caught in a tree. But what a cat, and what a catch. It ended very badly for the cat, a 110-pound mountain lion. We have to warn you that this may be a very difficult story to watch." (Transcriber's note: :rolleyes: )

Cut to footage of mountain lion in a tree

Reporter: "Eight hours after this mountain lion was first seen roaming the streets of Palo Alto, CBS 5 found the animal sleeping in a tree, 20 feet above one of the Palo Alto police cars sent out to find it. What happens next is graphic and disturbing."

Transcriber's note: CBS 5 must have woken the cat up when they found it, because it was clearly awake and looking at them in the footage.)

Footage is of a PA police officer with an AR moving into position and taking aim at the cat. The cat raises its head and looks in the direction away from the officer. Officer fires a single shot. The cat falls from the tree and runs about 25 feet before collapsing.

Female bystander: "Oh my god! Oh my god!"

Reporter: "The big cat fell as it turned and died."

Capt. Torin Fischer, PA PD: "When the officer saw it in the tree, they called for a tranquilizer gun that we had out here. While the gun was en route the animal started to run from the officer."

Reporter: "However, our pictures show the the animal only raising its head slightly when it was shot."

Activist watching footage in news truck: "God dammit."

Reporter: "We showed the video to a local member of an animal rights group."

Alfredo Kuba, In Defense of Animals: "I think it's absolutely atrocious the way the police behaved, because obviously the animal wasn't posing a threat to anyone, it was in a tree."

Reporter: "White roses and a note protesting the shooting were left at the scene by a woman and her two young sons."

Note: "Don't kill cougars! Shooting them is not the answer! Shame on poor wildlife management!"

Boy: "It would be better if they, um, tranquilized it."

Reporter: "But there are two schools within a mile."

Lisa Mellberg, neighbor: "I'm still shaking over it. I'm sad they had to shoot it, but the kids will be home soon from school. That would have been awful."

Reporter: "Linda Furrier's dog chased the mountain lion up the tree, while Linda's 2-year-old child played in the back yard."

Linda Furrier, homeowner: "It is a pity to lose a beautiful animal, but how would we have all felt had that animal attacked a child?"

Reporter: "The body and stomach contents of the 110-pound male mountain lion will be examined tomorrow for clues as to why it came into a residential neighborhood.

Just last month, Livermore police shot and killed a mountain lion at the gates of the Lawrence Livermore Lab, after Fish & Game agents said they could not safely tranquilize it. Study of the carcass showed that the Livermore lion had been injured, probably hit by a car.

Wildlife experts say mountain lion sightings are becoming more frequent in California, as the animals adapt to life near urban areas. In the Bay Area, about 4 or 5 mountain lions are killed each year under Fish & Game permits after they become a threat."
 
Well, as another Palo Alto resident...

I'm more than a bit surprised. I live in Barron Park, a dinkum sub-district that's a mile or two west of where that 110-pound kitty turned up. I guess I better watch the shrubs a little closer these days. Biggest thing I've otherwise encoutered before was a hefty-fat neighbor-fed racoon with a bad attitude.

Stupid cat wandered into the CENTER of town, all unconcerned-like. There's a school fulla little kids a couple blocks down from where it was strolling around. Idiot critter shoulda stayed outta the big city. Visiting the bright lights cost'm his life.

Just watched the video. Kitty was pretty, and looked BIG and healthy. As predicted, there's more uproar about shooting a "beautiful wild creature" than there is DANGEROUS PREDATOR KNOWN TO ATTACK HUMANS in close proximity to prey-sized people we usually call children. When the shot rang out, I heard an anguished "Oh my God!" and a loud "Oh no!" from onlookers. :rolleyes:

Note: .223 STINKS on big cats at close range. Cop shot it once, cat springs straight up off of it's branch about 5' in the air, bounds to the ground and takes of running. I dunno where she put the shot, but it only startled Mr. Puma initialy. She's lucky he didn't get MAD, as she was well-within a catamount's jumping range, which I uderstand is the longest in the industry at something like FORTY FEET. :eek:

Note the 2nd.: Sir Katicus was pretty unperturbed about the presence of a CROWD of spectators. He was just lounging up in the tree the dog chased him into without a worry---until the cop drew a bead on him. Then he started to look just a tad nervous, and started to stand up---whereupon he was immediately drilled at a range of about 30'. End of HIS story.

Personally, I wish they coulda held out until the tranq-gun had shown up, but school was about to get out, and little kids would have been swarming. Lion-man's nonchalance about human proximity mighta made that situation a little dicey, as he coulda jumped on top of a kid faster than anyone could have stopped him.

This is what we get for banning hunting as a means of managing these critters. They have NO FEAR of man. None. They don't see us any kind of threat, just funny-walking food.

Lessee, that's me and Sven and M1911Owner all jammed together in this liberal hell-hole. We oughta go have a drink sometime. Invade one of those trendy yuppie bars we got so many of 'round here and make snide remarks at the over-ernest anti-Bushies and paid-volunteer-poor-student-activists. :evil:

Edit: I type like an amatuer. And the Animal Defense Dude said "GoDamnit!" with FEELING. I wanted to punch him right in the nose for stinking idiocy. We have lions in town because they're doing GREAT. We can spare one, for chryssakes. Tree-huggers. Sheesh.
 
I swear to god, I've had it with the soccer moms in my town. What would they say if the cat swiped their kid, "oh, isn't nature wonderful?"
 
I think they should have tranquilized it, moved it to a more liberal part of town and turned it loose hungry. It might like a good meal of those blissninnies.
Bob
 
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