Movies where guns would make it rather short.

[CryingWolf]

700 NE for T-Rex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H00gshZW9Po

I won't get into the Star Wars debate, I will just say you would be owned by any Jedi worth their salt.

 

[sarduy]

have you seen "The Brave One" by Jodie Foster? if she had that 9mm in the begining of the movie the whole movie would have lasted 5 mins

 

[wolf_from_wv]

the 5th element comes to mind...

[BANG]

Anyone else want to negotiate???

 

[BlazingAngel01]

Star Trek Nemesis, have the Borg adapt to a Bullet.

 

[Sixtigers]

Jeep, I read your reasoning for CCW. I applaud it. Be aware, however, that in most every case, CCW is not legal in National Parks or Forests. Please research that before you carry in the woods.

As fas as movies:

The Hitcher--shoots the hitcher. Bad guy dead. Movie over.
Breakdown--Wife shoots the trucker attempting to attack her, or husband shoots the trucker later. Either way, movie over.
Alien--Forget about the acid blood, shoot the thing. I'd be quite surprised if there was no type of emergency shoring/patching aboard. Hell, our shuttles carry that now.
Last House on the Left--Don't invite strangers into your home. If you do, please have a gun and shoot them when they go psycho. Also, if you raise your daughter right, she won't buy grass from psychos and end up raped and dead.
Red Dawn--Can't help but think how different that invasion would have gone had more people been carrying CCW.
The River Wild--Who goes out in the wild like that, without a firearm?
Highlander--Sorry--The Kurgan shoots MacLeod, incapacitating him, then cuts off his head. End of movie.
Any Vampire Movie--Hard to sink teeth into someone's neck after taking a 3" load of 00B to the mouth. I'm just sayin'...
Any Slasher Movie--"Put down the machete--I'm only going to say it once!"
Kids--In the first two minutes of the movie, that girl's father comes home early and shoots that punk. End of movie.
Goodfellas--The waiter who got his foot shot off comes back angry and packing. End of movie.
Casualties of War--Vietnamese girl decides she doesn't want to go anywhere right now, thank you. End of movie.
Pulp Fiction--"Actually, I do mind if you have a bite of my Big Kahuna Burger."
Carrie--Things might have been different if just one teacher had been packing.
Children of the Corn--"I don't know what you're thinking about doing with that sickle, Malachai--but put it down. Now."
Freddy Got Fingered--No real point; someone just needed to shoot that guy. Quickly.
The Omen--"Holy ****, honey--You're right! This kid IS weird!"
The Blob--released under it's new title The Ballistic Gel.
Terminator--Wouldn't it have been cool if one of the other Sarah Connors had been a special forces soldier, home on leave, when Arnold came-a-knockin'?

...Oh, I could SO go on!

 

[DougDubya]

Vampires - they take special ammo to hurt.

I also seem to remember a LOT of M-16 fire emptied at the Blob. Granted, it's a Poodle Shooter...

The same goes for the Terminator. 12 gauge at point blank, M-16's at CQB distance, even a gasoline truck going nova. Unless Staff Sgt. Sarah Connor brought home a LAW and an MM-1 grenade launcher...

 

[Sixtigers]

Show me the movie where the vampire takes a 3" 00B 12 ga. round to the face, and is still viable. Physics is physics. Evil creature of the night, sure--but not immune to mass quantities of kinetic energy. No? How about a .50? No? How about a 20mm? No? 30mm? Nuclear device? Does it take a special nuclear device to waste a vamp? Does it need to be the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch? Can I punch a vampire with my fist, or does my fist have to be "special"? What about a '71 Cadillac Seville? Can I run over a vampire with a Caddy, or does it have to be a special Caddy?

Show me any bucket-sized (beginning of movie it was still small--if I was going to kill it at the end, what would be the point of the thread?) blob of gelatinous mucous that can take a blast from that same shotgun without turning into chunky vapor.

As far as the Terminator is concerned: I'd be willing to see how well a Cyberdyne Systems 2nd gen endoskeleton held up to a few well placed M82A1 rounds. And how different would that movie have been if the first Sarah Connor, upon being attacked by a strange, brooding, muscular stranger, emptied a couple of barrels of 12 ga 00B to it's face? If I remember the movie correctly, it was pulling birdshot out of it's face. Heck, even a CQB shotgun blast to the face with birdshot would have--at the very least!--had the Terminator looking significantly different as he wandered around town, looking for the actual Sarah Connor. No? Try this: Put a New York Steak on the back of a cast iron skillet. Now shoot it, up close, with a 12 ga. OOB, #7 or #8--your choice.

How much steak is left? Now picture this polished, stainless steel skull going around town on top of this bloody biker's body, attempting to "blend in" while it hunts for Sarah.

Now that I think about it, that might have been cool...

I'm just sayin'!

 

[ilcylic]

Sorry, Sixtigers, but the phrase "physics is physics" is an automatic 10 yard penalty in a discussion of vampires, a creature which does not exist in the real world.

 

[KnightHawk67]

That scene in Firefly is very similar to the one in Lonesome Dove (I think thats the name) Where Rodert Duvall & Kevin Cosner walk into the street to gunfight a group of badguys. Cosner walks up to the greasiest dude in the center says:

Cosner: "Are you the one that shot our friend?"
Bad Guy: "Yeah." <grin>
Cosner : *BLAM* - right between the eyes

Best acting Cosner has ever done.

 

[Working Man]

Obscure I know but....

What about The Tingler.

"Look, a giant centaped!"
levels a 12ga at it.... -BLAM-
"What a mess."

or

Harry and the Hendersons

"What the hell was that we hit"?
"Its big and harry".
"Is it dead"?
-BLAM-
"It is now"!

 

[Sage of Seattle]

The Blob--released under it's new title The Ballistic Gel.

My fiancee and I are STILL laughing over that one...

 

[ZeSpectre]

Double??

 

[ZeSpectre]

I think it was one of the Jim Butcher "Harry Dresden" books where a vampire says something to the effect of "we don't like to get normal humans stirred up, they're about as controlled as a nuclear bomb AND their technology works 24 hours a day".

 

[Sixtigers]

You can say that again!





(and it was the Dresden books).

ilcylic...I have no response. You're absolutely right, and I'll move my team back 10 yards. Good point, bro.

 

[Zedicus]

That scene in Firefly is very similar to the one in Lonesome Dove (I think thats the name) Where Rodert Duvall & Kevin Cosner walk into the street to gunfight a group of badguys. Cosner walks up to the greasiest dude in the center says:

Cosner: "Are you the one that shot our friend?"
Bad Guy: "Yeah." <grin>
Cosner : *BLAM* - right between the eyes

Best acting Cosner has ever done.

Wasn't that Open Range?

 

[pdowg881]

I saw one of those scream movies, and a girl is running from a guy with a knife and comes to a locked door. She grabs a giant fire axe and frantically tries to open the door. Of course at the last second she makes it through. Bad guy reaches his hand and head through broken part of door. Girl drops axe and runs screaming. Even without a gun, an axe against a guy bent halfway through a door could have ended that movie right there. After that one scene I couldn't watch it.

 

[SsevenN]

I think its called Hotel...a New one, Luck Wilson and some actress...... Bunch of guys attack/rape/kill people with pipes and knives in this hotel to make "snuff" films.
My first thought was just having ANY sidearm with even LIMITED amounts of ammo would have made escape not just possible, but likely

 

[ArcherandShooter]

Independence Day

How would things have been different if each and every human kidnapped by the aliens doing research had been armed, and taken a few of the ET experimenters with 'em before they got probed?

Might they have decided we were too ornery to bother?

 

[Wedge]

I can't believe nobody said "Die Hard".

Imagine if more than just John McClane had been carrying. Hans and company come in and shoot up in the air. 30+ people draw down and shoot all the badguys as them come out of the elevator. John McClane pops his head out the door sees everything is undercontrol and puts his shoes on.

Never gets to say "Yippe kai a..."

Movie is a flop.

Now that I think about it that would be terrible...better the way it was.

 

[Keegan]

SsevenN, I think you're thinking of Vacancy. And yes, they should have known to be armed before staying in a sketchy motel in the middle of nowhere.

 

[ASM826]

Schindler's List. Both the movie and the events the movie are based on.

Armed and willing Jews in German circa 1933=No death camps=No movie

 

[Green Lantern]

Jedi on the planet? Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

If guys like you ran the Empire, they might still be the dominant Galactic government!

ighlander--Sorry--The Kurgan shoots MacLeod, incapacitating him, then cuts off his head. End of movie.

Actually, some Immortals DO do that in the series.

I wish that in Highlander: Endgame that Matthew would have used his sniper rifle (Druganov?) on KELL instead of trying to do it on Duncan...then Matt could have hauled Kell off to the Sanctuary, Connor and Duncan and Matthew ALL would be alive!

Though, it was pretty sweet seeing Dawson demonstrate the advantages of a concealed-hammer snub from a coat pocket!

Someone mentioned The Punisher but not the movie. If more of Castle's family had been CCWing, maybe someone besides Frank would have survived the massacre. And COME ON, Mr. Ex-Delta FBI man! Even if you don't know your best friend at the Agency is working both sides of the fence, when one of your ops claims the life of the son of Howard Saint...you should play it safe and assume that he's gonna find his way through your cover!

 

[DougDubya]

Show me the movie where the vampire takes a 3" 00B 12 ga. round to the face, and is still viable. Physics is physics. Evil creature of the night, sure--but not immune to mass quantities of kinetic energy. No? How about a .50? No? How about a 20mm? No? 30mm? Nuclear device? Does it take a special nuclear device to waste a vamp? Does it need to be the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch? Can I punch a vampire with my fist, or does my fist have to be "special"? What about a '71 Cadillac Seville? Can I run over a vampire with a Caddy, or does it have to be a special Caddy?

Physics might be physics, but unless the firearm also throws its shooter around like a rag doll, DO NOT EXPECT it to alter the inertia of a creature with a non-normal central nervous system.

Just because your shotgun raises a cherry on YOUR shoulder does not mean that the miniscule percentage of mass tossed at your target will alter it in any way. Firearms put people down through CNS shock and blood loss. Bullets simply do not possess the physical mass to do anything to a larger body except interrupt and divide the material which it goes through.

Learn your physics before implying that a shotgun discharge could alter the movement or immovability of any object of human mass. Even a .45 ACP round can, at best, accomplish the equivalent of a bowling ball, and some shooters actually resort to .44 Magnum to ensure proper clearance of a table top. Since a human has FIFTY times the mass of a bowling pin (3 and a half pounds on average), and the tables said pins are placed upon are quite small, divide the distance said bowling pin can move from by fifty. Call it eight or so inches. One fiftieth of eight inches is a real short push.

As far as the Terminator is concerned: I'd be willing to see how well a Cyberdyne Systems 2nd gen endoskeleton held up to a few well placed M82A1 rounds. And how different would that movie have been if the first Sarah Connor, upon being attacked by a strange, brooding, muscular stranger, emptied a couple of barrels of 12 ga 00B to it's face? If I remember the movie correctly, it was pulling birdshot out of it's face. Heck, even a CQB shotgun blast to the face with birdshot would have--at the very least!--had the Terminator looking significantly different as he wandered around town, looking for the actual Sarah Connor. No? Try this: Put a New York Steak on the back of a cast iron skillet. Now shoot it, up close, with a 12 ga. OOB, #7 or #8--your choice.

Funny, Reese hit the Terminator at least six times at close range with a twelve gauge shotgun. As well, a cast iron skillet is flat, and of lower steel quality. We're talking advanced warfighting endoskeletons, with curved, deflective, high density alloy frames.

 

[Gaucho Gringo]

"Jurassic Park. What caliber for velociraptors?

How about a WWII 75mm recoilless rifle? Good enough for German tanks and still in use at ski areas in the USA for avalanche control.

 

[Headless]

How about a WWII 75mm recoilless rifle? Good enough for German tanks and still in use at ski areas in the USA for avalanche control.

Could someone explain how you make a 75mm rifle recoilless?