Moving and CCL (MO)

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I recently sold my house (closed yesterday) and we are renting a house 2 doors up until our new home is ready in 33 days. IIRC, I am supposed to inform the St. Louis County sheriffs dept. within a certain amount of time to inform them of an address change.

Now, my wife's CCL expires this month, and she went to the county courthouse to inquire about what to do.........and was told, by a "counter worker" not to worry about it. Well, I am one to follow the letter of the law, so.....


Anybody know what I need / could / should do?
 
Change of residence requires a notification to department of revenue and new as well as old sheriff department within 30 days with proof of residence change in MO. This is what the paper work from Jackson county sheriff says. Failure to do so voids you ccw.

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In the city, the sheriff's department and the police are two different entities.


I'de be putting in a few calls to make sure. If nothing else, call a CCW instructor.
 
Just curious.... and I always wonder this...why not just look up the law?

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5710000104.HTM

Missouri Revised Statutes
Chapter 571
Weapons Offenses
Section 571.104

Suspension or revocation of endorsements, when--renewal procedures--change of name or residence notification requirements.

571.104. 1.

4. Any person issued a concealed carry endorsement pursuant to sections 571.101 to 571.121 shall notify the department of revenue and the sheriffs of both the old and new jurisdictions of the endorsement holder's change of residence within thirty days after the changing of a permanent residence. The endorsement holder shall furnish proof to the department of revenue and the sheriff in the new jurisdiction that the endorsement holder has changed his or her residence. The sheriff of the new jurisdiction may charge a processing fee of not more than ten dollars for any costs associated with notification of a change in residence. The change of residence shall be made by the department of revenue onto the individual's driving record and the new address shall be accessible by the Missouri uniform law enforcement system within three days of receipt of the information.
 
Contact the Missouri Department of Revenue to find out how to submit your change of address:
http://dor.mo.gov/feedback/

But, I would guess it would be on this form:
http://dor.mo.gov/forms/4160.pdf

or this website:
https://sa.dor.mo.gov/coa/

Now, my wife's CCL expires this month, and she went to the county courthouse to inquire about what to do.........and was told, by a "counter worker" not to worry about it. Well, I am one to follow the letter of the law, so.....

Anybody know what I need / could / should do?

Look up and find out what the state law is BEFORE you call someone and ask what their opinion is.
 
Look up and find out what the state law is BEFORE you call someone and ask what their opinion is.

NavyLCDR, I do know how to use the internet. The laws you find on line are not black and white. They told (St. Louis County) my wife to not worry about it.....they told me today that they will just "work with me and note my information".

I was looking for someone who may have experienced the same ordeal, i.e. the "double move".
 
They told (St. Louis County) my wife to not worry about it.....they told me today that they will just "work with me and note my information".
Unless you have that in writing from the leadership of both of the entities that you are supposed to notify, it is worth nothing.
 
NavyLCDR, I do know how to use the internet. The laws you find on line are not black and white. They told (St. Louis County) my wife to not worry about it.....they told me today that they will just "work with me and note my information".

I was looking for someone who may have experienced the same ordeal, i.e. the "double move".
The statute seems pretty darn clear to me. The requirement is to notify the Department of Revenue, the old sheriff office and the new sheriff office of the change of address within 30 days. I'm not sure how they could have made it any more black and white. It tells you who you must contact and within what time frame.

Will the counter person on the phone who told you not to worry about it represent you in court if something goes wrong? I doubt it.

For what it's worth, I did have a similar experience in Washington. I had an auto accident and the statute requires "shall, within four days after such accident, make a written report of such accident to the chief of police of the city or town if such accident occurred within an incorporated city or town or the county sheriff or state patrol if such accident occurred outside incorporated cities and towns." Again, black and white, it tells me where to take the accident report and within what time frame.

I took the required accident report form to the police department of my town and they refused to accept it and told me I had to send it to the Department of Licensing. They had a logbook of visitors and purpose for visit, so I logged my visit to the police department in their logbook with date, time and reason for visit. I attached a note to the accident report form that I attempted to comply with the Revised Code of Washington but the police department refused to take the report and mailed it to the Department of Licensing.

When my ex-wife (wife at the time) applied for her CPL, the counter person at the sheriff's office told her that her out of state driver's license was invalid because we were now residents of Washington State. The Washington Administrative Code states that military dependents are not required to obtain WA driver's licenses. I sent an email to the sheriff recommending that his counter help stop providing incorrect legal advise. He agreed my ex-wife was not required to obtain a WA driver's license and said he would take care of the problem with the counter help.

My point is you can't rely solely upon what a phone answerer or counter person tells you what the law is. They won't help you in court. And if you have to choose, I would choose to comply with written statute vice what Linda the receptionist says.
 
I went to the St. Louis County police department today and was told, by two employees, not to do anything until I move in to my permanent residence.

I informed them it would be beyond the 30 day grace period, and they said "that's fine, nobody follows that anyway".

I told them, with a nice smile, that I would remember their names and faces.........
 
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