MPAA Censors guns from Indiana Jones Trailer

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There's a bit of a controversy brewing over the removal of, among other things, Thompson submachine guns from the new Indiana Jones movie trailer for "The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"

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http://chud.com/forum/showthread.php?t=105937&page=7 (scroll down)
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/film/article802170.ece?CMP=KNC-powersearchSEM1&HBX_PK=

Since this trailer was desinged for all audiences, is the MPAA saying that it is inapporpriate for children to "see" guns, even though they know they are there? Why go to ALL the trouble of editing the guns out? It must have been done to satisfy the MPAA, who have no problem with giving Rambo an "R" rating....

It's especially weird, given that the European trailer retains the guns....***?
 
I wish I could say I'm surprised. The MPAA is not what I'd call a shining torch of libertarian thought.

Wes
 
Umm....Spielberg has a very odd realtionship with guns. Remember, he re-edited ET to remove the firearms via CGI to make it more 'kid friendly'. He used VERY expensive replica Garands in the making of 'Saving Private Ryan' even though REAL de-milled m-1's were available at fraction of the cost.

No doubt, he is OK with the ommision. Oddly, I'm not bothered either as it isn't the guns but the fact that they are being wielded in a menacing manner; is that an 'all audiences' OK thing?

My kids (3 and 5) suffer through far worse with me as I'm a movie buff and sometimes exercise poor judgement (they've watched the first 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' movie with me--I did skip the melting Nazis part). We have also puzzled together at the end of JAWS when Roy Scheider (may he RIP) finally decided to USE THE M-1 ON THE SHARK and forever left me agonizing if he cast it off and let it sink or carried it to shore and cleaned it promptly...but I digress.
 
lions and tigers and... guns? Oh, my!

Wonder what the MPAA would think of this. Terribly inappropriate for children, of course :rolleyes:

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Since we all know the scarecrow didn't have a brain, he would probably be disqualified from legally carrying a weapon, right?

So, did he get that pistol in a....







....straw purchase?
 
As he is not a TV or movie fan (with exceptions of course) the Old Fuff must ask, what the heck is the MPAA? :confused:
 
haha, anyone remember watching Thank You For Smoking, where WIlliam H MAcy's senator character tries to digitally edit classic movies by"improving" them and removing all cigarettes from Bogart, et al? hahaha. The "real world" is soo much nuttier...
 
Spielberg is SUCH a hypocrite.

He is known for having an enormous gun collection which stupifies all his liberal friends.

--Travis--
 
Old Fuff:

MPAA = The Motion Picture Association of America

If you own a VCR, TiVo, or DVD recorder, here's one way to think about what the MPAA is: it's the organization the head of which declared in Congressional testimony (in 1982, with the Boston Strangler a better known miscreant than today) that

"I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone."

(Here's some context: http://www.godwinslaw.org/weblog/archive/2005/03/21/valenti-in-1982--the-vcr-is-the-boston-strangler)

The film industry has survived that strangling pretty well, it seems.

It's the lobbying organization pushing for the home-recording equivalents to trigger locks, magazine capacity limits, waiting periods, and death by lawsuit. They'd like every part of every electronic chain in your home to be controlled (and remotely defeatable) by them, either on-demand or based on algorithms intended to spot what they consider High Naughtiness. Imagine a "reasonable restriction on the kind of guns that Americans don't need to own" that included a webcam in every gunsafe, just to check up on what you're doing.

My explanation is less than charitable, I realize; feel free to discount it accordingly. But I don't think it's unfair.

timothy
 
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MPAA is the industry 'self-gov' body that lobbies and, most pertaining to this, has rated films in the US since about 1968 (G, PG, PG-13, R, NC-17 and (formerly) X and M also). They also rate the trailers (ads) shown in theaters as being for use with 'general' or 'mature' audiences. So, sometimes, a more explicit trailer will run with an R rated film as the audience is preseumed mature--but a 'watered down' trailer might also be made for the same movie to show with a more kid oriented movie.

The gun thing is an odd twist--usually violence gets past easily. That's why I'd bet Senior Spielberg approved this or sponsered it in total.
 
Since we all know the scarecrow didn't have a brain, he would probably be disqualified from legally carrying a weapon, right?

So, did he get that pistol in a....

He got himself elected to Congress. All those left wing anti's have permits. And very few seem to have brains.
 
Good grief man!! Can't we all just enjoy a movie for what it is? Unfreakinbelievable!!!!

I am so sick of this whole 'PC' thing these days. I think some of those MPAA people just need a hug.

:banghead:
 
Speak of gun violence, Hollywood movies is single biggest media source for gun violence depiction. How hypocritical.
 
MPAA & RIAA = BATFE Equivalents of the Movie & Music Industry's.

2 more Agency's that need to go.
 
My explanation is less than charitable, I realize; feel free to discount it accordingly. But I don't think it's unfair.

The gun thing is an odd twist--usually violence gets past easily. That's why I'd bet Senior Spielberg approved this or sponsered it in total.

It's the lobbying organization pushing for the home-recording equivalents to trigger locks, magazine capacity limits, waiting periods, and death by lawsuit. They'd like every part of every electronic chain in your home to be controlled (and remotely defeat able) by them, either on-demand or based on algorithms intended to spot what they consider High Naughtiness. Imagine a "reasonable restriction on the kind of guns that Americans don't need to own" that included a webcam in every gunsafe, just to check up on what you're doing.

MPAA is the industry 'self-gov' body that lobbies and, most pertaining to this, has rated films in the US since about 1968 (G, PG, PG-13, R, NC-17 and (formerly) X and M also). They also rate the trailers (ads) shown in theaters as being for use with 'general' or 'mature' audiences. So, sometimes, a more explicit trailer will run with an R rated film as the audience is presumed mature--but a 'watered down' trailer might also be made for the same movie to show with a more kid oriented movie.


Just what I need... another Hollywood Bliss-Nanny outfit protecting the children while they exploit violence and sex to make big bucks. :cuss: :rolleyes:

Well thanks anyway for the explanation.
 
Look more closely. The character on the left still has his "evil weapon" in the 2nd pic, only it is lowered.. I would wager a bet that the lower pic is the same scene only a few hundredths of a second off from the first and that the character on the right, also still has his weapon only it too is in the lowered position
 
Wow, 21 posts in, and nobody has complimented the Tommy-gunner on his trigger discipline?
 
His trigger discipline is terrific, but if he really plans to shoot Indy, he'd better rack the actuator back on that 1928 Thompson; the gun fires from an open-bolt.
 
What's up with the boxes on the left that magically move back against the wall? I tend to agree with markmc753 that is a later moment from the same scene.
 
Perhaps you miss the point.

Notice that the actor in both versions has his hands in the approved surrender position. The second photoclip shows that he has guns pointed at him. The first photoclip does not.

The obvious lesson is that immediate surrender is the appropriate response to every attack. Just make believe that the attacker has superior force.
 
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