Multi Die Sets For The Same Caliber

Kind of new to reloading and have not shot much the last year because of rotator cuff surgery . I am feeling almost a 100 percent now and ready for some shooting again .

I have a lot of .38 plated bullets and lead bullets . The part that I dislike , or should I say the part that takes me the longest is adjusting my dies . I use a turret press and have my .38 dies set for the plated bullets . I just loaded some last week and it was such a breeze because they were already adjusted from a previous loading over a year ago .

I want to load some lead bullets now and I was thinking about just buying another set of dies just for those bullets , because it was such a breeze not having to adjust the dies every time .

Now my question to y'all , would you buy another set of dies or change them every time I reload because I need the practice setting them up and the more practice the better .

 

I would make a dummy round for each of the bullets, and use that to adjust a single set of dies each time.

 

can't you just buy another seating die and do the dummy round thing suggested by badkarmamib?

luck,

murf

 

I have a Dillon 650 with (3) different toolheads in 45 ACP...(1) is set for 200 lead SWC, (1) 230 FMJ and last one for 185 FMJ. Have a similar set up for 9mm, 40, 38/357 and 300 BO. The really nice thing about it, I can run a couple boxes of 230 FMJ and swap out the tool head an run 200 SWC in about 2 minutes.

 

I use a taper crimp die for plated bullets .

 

Dies are very cheap, per round, so I never hesitate to buy new dies when I add a load or new rifle/handgun. For rounds I load on my progressives, I get a complete “load ready” toolhead, such I don’t even have to adjust my powder measure. For turret press loads, same - complete tool head with no adjustment required. For single stage/precision loads, I just get another seater, or more often, another seater cap, since I most often use chamber type LE Wilson dies.

I keep my “established load” dies and turret heads ready to rock. If I’m dabbling in new stuff, I’ll buy another set until I get settled in, if I change completely and replace the old load, I convert the toolhead to the new gear. If I’m adding a load to my stable, it’s a new set.

It’s easy to go back to an old load simply using a dummy round, but it still takes time and still introduces the opportunity for variability.

 

I bought micrometer seating dies for every cartridge I often load different bullets for. I record the setting and can easily readjust. I love the Redding pistol dies.

https://www.ebay.com/p/Redding-Competition-Seater-Die-38-Special-357-Magnum-55282/1334430581

 

I am not opposed to buying dies or turrets , but am I hurting my learning and skill progression doing this by not setting up the dies each time I reload , even with the same bullets .

 

For pistol ammo. . . I just dial it in per my notes. It's a pistol after all; 1 MOA variation on target will never be noticed.

For rifle ammo. . . dedicated FL sizers per chamber, and a micrometer seater per caliber (not cartridge). An extra 1 MOA variation on target is reason to by a barrel or sell the gun.

 

I have several multiple cartridge dies set .... Some of them have been set for forty plus years and not moved ....

 

I've got three sets of Lee 38 special dies - one for taper crimp 38 special, one for roll-crimp .357 magnum, and one that I mix half-and-half with my second set of 9mm dies for loading .38s with a case length of .750" - essentially a 38 short colt. The ability to have multiple turrets holding multiple dies sets in full adjustment is my favorite aspect of the Lee turret presses. Like Walkalong I want things just so, and can waste substantial time adjusting if I use one set.

 

I have separate turrets for the .38 Special and .357 Magnum. When changing bullets in the .38 Special the only real die adjustment change is the bullet seating die and if you're using a Lee die the adjustment is quick and painless IMO. If you feel another set of dies is the way to go I see no reason not to. Go for it...

 

Suggest you take a "2-pronged" approach to your actions....

► For those dies which must be removed (for instance the Crimp die), buy and refit all your dies with Hornady lock rings. Once set, the die can be completely removed from the press and re-installed weeks later without losing your die setting. It's the pinching motion of the lock ring on the die that makes the difference.



These come in a convenient 12 pack just for this purpose.

► For those dies which only need their setting changed (for instance the Seating die), buy the calibrated seating stem versions as was previously mentioned. Then you can record the proper setting in your Loading Notebook for each bullet you use. The calibrated mandrill will take you right back to where you were the last time you used that die with those particular bullets.


Using this method, you only need to buy the 2 types of Crimp dies, and a single Seating die.

 

I would just learn to adjust the dies....at some point you will need to disassemble the dies to clean them and then have to reset them all over again

 

I wet tumble so that might be awhile .

 

You and a few others have convinced me, I am getting another set of dies .

 

Since it's the seating die that gets most all of the adjusting due to different bullets I would get a seating die with the micrometer head. Then as you use it log down the setting so you can quickly return. I have this on several die sets and probably want buy another set of dies without it.

Another option is to use your calipers and measure the seating stem position. I do this on several pistol dies.

 

Extra turrets with dies already setup is why I love my LCT press.

 

Don't get a whole new set of dies...just get additional seating dies. I have two or three seaters for ever caliber I reload. I number them with a sharpie, then keep notes on my iPhone about which numbered die seats which bullet.

I maintain saved searches on eBay for seater dies, and find that you can occasionally pick one up pretty cheap. I must admit, on occasion I've even bought a complete set if the price was right, just to get the seater die.