My first .22lr pistol

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Dr.Zubrato

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A few days ago I was looking around at a gun store with 400 dollars burning a hole in my pocket. I handled lots of guns and decided to make a pro/con list, sleep on it and do more research on the models I liked.

As it stands I don't own a firearm, and this would be my very first. I'm looking for a reliable .22lr with good sights and accuracy for target practice every weekend. I would prefer a semi-auto but not taking revolvers off the table just yet. My limit is ~600$ but would like a buffer zone for magazines, range time, and ammo.

Browning Buckmark Contour 5": This was my first pick, and the gun I had been drooling over on the internet. When I held the pistol I felt like it wasn't as well balanced as the slabside buckmark. The trigger felt decent, but not as nice as I remembered on another buckmark.(Will trigger improve after use?) For me, the biggest con to this pistol are the sights. I don't like black on black, and as far as I know the only replacement sights are being handmade by a guy on rimfirecentral. Another con for me are the screws for dissassembly. I am no stranger to loctite, but I would have LOVED to have seen something comparable to mauser k98 locking screws on this pistol.

Ruger MKIII: When I held this pistol I felt the balance was okay, the trigger was okay, but didn't like the target grips, and liked the regular grips even less. I have studied the takedown on this pistol, and while I love the fact it doesn't require screws or tools, I wouldn't say that's a big enough plus for me. I like simplicity and I don't much care for the multiple lawyer features and safeties on a gun replacing common sense. That said, I'm sure in time I could grow to love an accurate reliable pistol regardless.

Taurus Model 941 or 41: While I cant quite remember the name, I LOVED the grip of this revolver and the balance was EXCELLENT. I remember not having to line up the sights at all, when I checked they were dead even. The SA triggerpull is nicer than the buckmarks, but the DA is hideously atrocious, even comical. Pulling the hammer back even requires a master veteran of thumb wrestling. I liked the gun overall, but I would like a nice consistent trigger on a pistol that doesn't require me to change sight picture.

Sig Mosquito: I would rank the grips on this gun better than the Taurus, and the balance was also excellent. Sights were not exactly to my liking, with lots of air between the front sight. Trigger was decent, a little bit better than the buckmark but not by much. This was the cheapest gun of the lot, and I think this is because it requires the expensive CCI ammo, and wont feed much else. Way too many people complain of FTF, FTE and even people that dremel polished the feed lips and chamber say they need to clean every few hundred rounds. As a newbie I think this would be last on my list.


I could go on and on but these are my top picks. I don't expect you guys to make my decision for me, that would be silly, but perhaps share your experiences with the particular models and give pointers on what to look out for, or possibly any recommendations in my price range.

To recap, my priorities are first reliability, accuracy, balance, and good sight picture. I would like to be able to feed it cheap walmart ammo, and clean every 2k rounds. In previous range time I have burned through ~600 rounds with my dad, and would like to spend more time shooting than cleaning.

Thank you for your time!:D
 
Lets see, I did this recently.

Browning Buckmark Contour 5": Never felt good in hand for me and I passed on the unscrewing to clean part.

Ruger MKIII: I went home with this one. The lawyer features have only made a difference for me as far as the magazine safety with disassembly/reassembly. I skip the trigger pulls through most of the reassembly though (use Bic pen tube to manipulate the hammer) so I only have to pop the mag in once. I chose the 22/45 because the grip felt better to me than the all metal variety. This is just my opinion.

Taurus Model 941 or 41: Shot too many Smith .22lr revolvers so the Taurus felt second rate to me. Again, my humble opinion.

Sig Mosquito: My brother bought one and it was terrible out of the box. It barely functioned. He did the old fluff and buff to make it only ammo sensitive. It seems to like Aguila but he does need to clean it often. Also, the SA trigger is incredibly squishy. He has handed it to people who thought a safety was engaged because it seemed like it had traveled to its stop and not fired. Really would advise against it.

You should also check out a MkII (tradional or 22/45). Less lawyer features.
 
The Ruger and the Browning are excellent choices. See if you can try one of each out first, either by going to a range that rents guns or by inviting your friends who might own one or more along for the ride. Then select the one that best fits your hand and eye. I'd steer clear of plastic guns with zinc (pot metal) slides.
 
A second vote for a rental range trip.

Rugers aren't that hard to take down and rebuild, the whining and complaining is mostly first-time attempts ... if you are the type to try for 5 minutes and then whine online about how "impossible" a procedure is, steer clear of the Ruger line. Once you understand the function of the internal parts, Ruger mkIII maintenance gets fairly easy, and if you're not mechanicaly inclined, then at least you don't have to clean them too often!

Don't worry about assembly method (beyond quality materials), all that matters is how much you enjoy shooting the pistol.

For any further opinions on "what handgun to buy" the poster will be required to supply X-Rays of both hands, with a scale reference, plus photos and full hand-prints for ergonomics considerations.
 
Old Wolverine?

You forgot one, an original Whitney Wolverine. I do see them online, priced within your budget. I've bought two for $325 and $375. Unless one is talking about an expensively souped up Ruger or something, Whitneys shoot just as well (or better) as any of the above and, IMO, have a way better trigger. Plus, they're just so cool looking.

I think that there's one on GunsAmerica with scratches for $325.
 
You can't go wrong with the Ruger or Browning semi autos. Both are excellent guns. Your choice is an excellent one. I think all new shooters should start with a .22. There are a number of reasons but little recoil and inexpensive ammo are two of them.
Odds are in your favor to become a much better shooter than people buying the typical centerfire handguns I see them buy. You can practice a lot and have fun all you want without consideration of ammo cost. Best wishes on your endeavor. It is fun.
 
+1 for the CZ Kadet. I have the Kadet conversion for the CZ 75b. It's as accurate as my Ruger MkII competition pistol, or darn near, and much easier to take down. I got it because I couldn't pry the Ruger out of my wife's hands. Now we just swap between them. Accuracy and marital harmony is a good thing. :D

Jeff
 
I grew up on Ruger semi-auto .22's, but I love the ammo choices I have for my Taurus 990. My co2 bb gun is louder than .22 Colibri.
 
I have more 22 pistols that the average joe, but I don't have any that are very new. I commonly carry a Colt Woodsman hunting, and shoot it a lot, and I would say it is probably my favorite.

When the weather is bad, I carry my old faithful Ruger single six - whaich was built in 1958 and has been back to the factory twice over the years.

I have never owned a Ruger semi auto 22, but I have always wanted one. Of the ones you listed I would go with that or the 22/45. I've almost bought one several times over the years, but I have a decent supply of Woodsmans, so I always talk myself out of it.

I recently shot a brand new Ruger single six at the range, and I was very impressed with it. It is much nicer than my old beater.
 
If you go with the Sig Mosquito, you might plan on sending it here from the get go to have it worked

http://grayguns.com/gunsmith-services/sig-sauer-p-series/

If I had known, back when I had mine, I might still have it.

Another option you may not have looked at is the Beretta M87. It's fed everything I've run through it, and only slows down when I get it really dirty.

Pic shows target with about 250 rds through it, 15 yds.
 

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I agree regarding a NIB/LNIB Ruger Mark II. I found my NIB 50th Anniversary for $199.00 about 2 years ago. The only problem is, I never get to fire it. It has become one of my daughter's favorite handguns. :(
 
I agree about the Ruger Single Six, I keep the Mag wheel in mine almost all the time. It is accurate enough for squirrel, and other varmints at reasonable range and so much fun to shoot.
 
Of the auto pistols mentioned the Ruger and Browning would be my choice. The Ruger Single six or a used S&W m17 (k22) or M18 are great revolvers. The S&W 422 or a M41 are also excellent as is a Colt woodsman. If you want to shoot Bulls eye a heavy gun is a better choice. A good used S&W,Ruger or Colt can be a good choice as it takes a lot of shooting to wear one out.
 
I'm pretty sure Walther also recommends CCI Mini Mags in their P22. I have had the Mosquito for a while and it's a great gun as long as you shoot Mini Mags. The gun also feels great in my larger than normal hands, is very accurate, and looks like a 226 unless you stare at it for more than a couple seconds.
It is true that Mini Mags are a little more expensive, but $6/100 hopefully isn't a bank breaker. If it is, you seriously need to give up the gun addiction...
 
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I have more 22 pistols that the average joe, but I don't have any that are very new. I commonly carry a Colt Woodsman hunting, and shoot it a lot, and I would say it is probably my favorite.
Same here. Mine was made in 1938 and is the most accurate pistol I own. I have a Ruger MK II but hardly shoot it.

A good used Woodsman will go a bit more than $400, but not much more. Here's one from www.gunsamerica.com:
Colt Woodsman 22LR (GA Number: 926219481) Classified Ad
Colt Automatic Pistols (22 Cal.)
Very nice Colt Woodsman 22. Has honest wear on the blueing, but overall 90%. Shoots extremely well and has no rust at all.

Seller: Kevin_deals $425.00
 
I'd vote for the Buck Mark of the ones mentioned but you can't go wrong with the Ruger. Williams makes a great set of fiber sights that I have on my Buck Mark. I'm waiting for Natchez to get them back in stock for my SR9. Sure helps these old eyes.
 
Browning Buckmark is a fine gun (as is the Ruger), if it fits you hand it would be my choice. Try to handle a Beretta NEOS -I bought one for my Wife, it fit her hand perfectly, its a great gun (one of my favorites)- I "borrow" it all the time :D !!
 
still love my Neos for cheap shooting. Got it for $250 or so, has a good trigger, super easy to strip and clean, and is more accurate than I'll ever be. CDNN also carries magazines for it for $10 a piece. $400-250= a lot of extra money for ammo.
 
Part of your choice should or will be driven by the grip angle. The Ruger is a sweet gun to shoot but the grip angle is rather extreme if you switch over to a more vertical angle later on. That's one big plus for the Ruger 22/45.

There's another budget option, the S&W 22A. It's a nice gun that shoots well and doesn't seem to have any overly fussy habits on what ammo it shoots.

And if you're looking at used as an option there's the S&W 422/622/2206. I've got the mid length 422 and it's a keeper. A very nice gun to shoot. And with the grip angle it fits right in there with my other semis so it's an excellent practice gun for learning proper technique. In fact I often shoot a magazine or two through it then switch to the center fire right away while the positive elements are still fresh in my muscle memory.
 
Thank you for your informative posts and time, everyone! I was really surprised when I got back to this thread after finals and Christmas with the family, I really appreciate you guys trying to help me get the most bang for my meager bucks!

It looks like I have much more research to do, and a lot more guns to molest at the store after the holidays :D

I see now I have a lot more options than I thought I had, and I assumed I had examined a pretty representative cross-section of pistols at the gun store. :eek::D
I don't think I'll buy anything off the internet quite yet, because I would need to inspect condition and hold the thing in my hand but I'll have a better grasp on prices.

To be honest, a certain part of me wants to save my earnings and jump in the deep end once I saw the high-dollar AR-15's, but I can't eat polymer or brass, ( but believe me I tried to convince myself I could use it to keep myself warm ;)) and I need that kind of money for text-books.

I will take your guys advice and stick to trying out other kinds of pistols at the rental range before I invest, and I'll probably spend more than a few nights "sleeping on it" before I make up my mind. Again, thank you for sharing your experiences, recommendations, and finding me deals, I really appreciate the effort and thought.

Hope your Christmas was merry, and I hope you fellas have a prosperous new year!
 
I have had a MKIII and a MKII for a long time. Great guns, just a bit of a struggle to field strip till you get used to it, and they feel nothing like a "real" pistol. Recently, I went with one of Sig's P226 .22 rimfire guns. It is definitely superior to the Mosquito, and later on you can upgrade the slide to 9mm/40/357.

Here is my full review on this Sig 22.
http://brasstard.com/?p=75
 
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The Buck Mark and Ruger are both top-notch choices. You won't be dissappointed with either one. The other in-production .22's might be good, they might not. I think both the Sig and the Walther have undergone minor design changes to improve reliability issues with the first gens. Might be one or the other though, I haven't been looking for one. Anyway, you might end up with a bargain, or you might end up with a loud paperweight.

Colts, High Standards, and Wolverines all have their appeal as well. I wouldn't mind getting one, but there may be an issue getting parts (Or maybe not, I've never had to order any) due to being out of production. I wouldn't mind getting one myself, but I have a stable of back-ups in case something breaks and I have to wait a while for a new part to get it up and running again.
 
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