My First Round of Trap...

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DaleCooper51

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I've been shooting for many years, but for the most part have stayed away from shotguns due to wrong eye dominance situation. I've had an old wingmaster for a number of years, but it was set up as a slug gun with a scope. Well for my 37th birthday, I got my gumption up and decided to go shoot a round of trap. I borrowed my father's NEF topper deluxe classic and a couple boxes of shells. The first thing I noticed when I pulled up is the rack of shotguns that looked like they cost more than my house.

After signing in, it was our turn to take the range. I started in station 3, not really knowing much and was waiting my turn to shoot. First shooter boom, second shooter boom. Now it's my turn and I shoulder the shotgun waiting for the clay. I waited a little more, then looked around and all the other shooters were standing there looking at me. The gentleman to the left of me came up and I told him it was my first time out. He told me to relax, breath, and you have to call the birds. Ok, I got it now and called the bird, boom, but missed. I was shooting right handed and had to close my dominant eye. Well, my first round I ended up hitting 10 out of 25 and was pretty discouraged, but had already paid for my second round. The gentleman that told me I needed to call the bird, said why not try your next round shooting left handed. My second round of trap went a little better. I knew to call the bird when it was my turn. I ended up hitting 12 of 25 and felt pretty good for the first time shooting trap and first time shooting a shotgun left handed.

I liked it enough, that I went and ordered my own topper deluxe classic. No need to spend much on a shotgun at this point. About a week later, my shotgun came in and I got the call to go pick it up. After doing the paperwork and paying for it, I opened the box and noticed there was no bead sight installed. It was drilled but there was a burr and the bead was never installed. I figured I would have to send it back and wait another week or two for it to come back. The owner of the shop, told me not to worry, tapped the threads and installed a new bead for me. He told me they stand behind what they sell and fixed me up in about 10 minutes. I really have to give Boyer's Hardware in Palmerton PA, and Alan Boyer in particular, my good guy of the week award.

I'm looking forward to next Thursday and shooting my next round of trap. I know that the best way to get better is through practice, but can anyone point me to a resource or provide some pointers to help make my next time out a little more enjoyable? I don't want to practice bad habits and reinforce the wrong things.

regards,

Dale
 
Sounds as if you're off to a good start.

Those old guys at the club are invaluable and I bet they'd be more than willing to talk your ear off. ;)

Ed
 
Dale;
Try and find a copy of "Score Better at Trap and Skeet." by Fred Missildine and Nick Karas. My copy was copyrighted 1971 by Olin Corporation and published by Stoeger Publishing. You might find a copy on Amazon.com or in a used book store. Both authors are very down to earth and their advice is as relevant today as it was 35 years ago. They cover everything from gun fit to foot position. You will realize that other than gun fit your gun need not cost an arm and a leg. Once I learned to shoot the clay target games I found it very satisfying to show up with an 870 and run the targets with a squad of guys sporting Kriegohoff, Perazzi, and other assorted costly toys. Sure did piss off a bunch of snobish poor sports. You may find skeet shooters a little more friendly than their trap counterparts but both can be great companions both on and off the field. Enjoy your new sport and keep the gun moving!
Best, DJW
 
Congrats and Mazeltov. A couple things....

Your shotgun's on the light side and will kick enthusiastically. I recommend getting some light loads. 7/8 oz loads are available from Remington and Winchester at al. These will bust clays nicely and not your shoulder. Can't find them at Walmart but well worth a search.

Shooting from your dominant eye side makes sense. Do practice mounting at home to help get used to the change and condition your muscles.

Also, try to get your focus before calling for the bird. Look past the bead and focus where you're going to see the bird. It'll help if you focus on the horizon and them move your focus back to the trap house.

12/25 is about average for the first round, according to the ATA.

Have fun!
 
I recommend taking your wingmaster and getting a non-slug barrel to start; second, get a lesson or two, or at least have some of those old-timers give you some basic instruction - most should when it's not so busy; third, relax and have some fun - when trap gets boring, move to skeet, then 5-stand, and eventually, you'll wind up where the real fun is - sporting clays!!!!... :)
 
Thanks for all the replies. After posting this, I gave my dad a call and he told me to pick up a hand thrower, shells, and clays and he would spend some time working with me tomorrow.

I was shooting 1oz Remington 7.5 game loads and they didn't seem to beat me up too much. Will the 7/8oz loads be that much lighter?

Before I bought my single shot, I thought about a new barrel for my 870, but cycling it left handed seemed really odd to me. I figured I should simplify the learning curve and learn mounting and shooting left handed first. If it turns out I like shooting clays and stick with it, I may scour the used racks for a nice broken in wingmaster. I like my slug gun the way it is.

There's a sporting clays place not too far from me.

http://www.lvsclays.com/

It looks like a bunch of fun and I may have to give it a shot after gaining some proficiency shooting trap. Time to start looking for a used copy of that book.

Thanks again for the replies and advice.

Dale
 
I went 4/25 my first time.

Dad, is that you!? :D Actually I think he might have got a 2 on one of his first outtings. He said the barrel on his shotgun was probably bent. He had used it as a pry-bar before.

If I'm not going out to shoot trap on a regular basis (and I almost never am) I score a 12 or13 until I get back into the swing of things. Not sure I ever scored passed 20 though.
 
Another book you might look for is called "Shotgunning the art and the Science" by Bob Brister. Mine was a birthday gift about 35 years ago but I still see it in gun shops. It covers about everything you need to know about shotgunning.
 
Another book you might look for is called "Shotgunning the art and the Science" by Bob Brister.

Agree!

Score Better at Skeet by Misseldine is also recommended for those that are not afraid to shoot incomers *neener*

Seriously Misseldine not only shares how to hit stations, also explains why one misses.

These 3 books, will answer most questions folks have in regard to shotguns and shooting shotguns.

One DVD I can highly recommend is by our own Will Fennell

There are 5 things one must do correctly in order to fell targets with a shotgun, no matter the target.

All of the above are excellent in getting these 5 concepts down pat!



A Skeet shooter can do it 25 times in a row, using 8 different positions

*stir-stuff-up*
 
Remington used to put out free pamphlets on trap and skeet that covered the basics - layout, rules, basic stance and gun position - not too sure if they still do or not; otherwise, get a book or dvd and a lesson or two

Cross dominance can be corrected by learning to shoot with the other hand, having a stock bent to fit you, or shooting "one-eyed" - all have their pluses and minuses....
 
I noticed that there is an H&R Topper Trap model out now if that is your preferred shottie. If you are looking at sporting clays - you might want to save those nickels and go get an over/under or semi.
 
Mr. Cooper; you've now been bitten by the clay pigeon bug. It will now go beyond control. I remember the, H&R Topper, Davidson SxS, 870's, 1100's, Browning Citores, BT-99's, Winchester 101's, Mod. 12's, etc. etc.. Then theres back boreing, portting, full-ex,extra full chokes, release triggers, etc. etc.. The main thing is HAVE FUN and BE SAFE.
 
clays dont care how much you paid.

Its the god's honest truth, a clay doesnt know nor care how much you laid on the counter for your toy. BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT, it feels so damn good when you take a J.C. Higgins 107.1 or a Mossberg 300K out and best that fellow with the $10,000 Krieghoff.

however i would never do the lil victory dance at the end, thats poor form.

Occasionally i go shoot trap with my uncle in Northern VA, well lets just say he shoots at a hoity-toity club. and i have often recieved snooty looks and sniggers when i set my antiques on the rack. As long as i do my part, it doesnt stay that way for long.

Shoot that Topper, get good and go home smug.
 
Woohoo Happy Dance...

While out and about last weekend, I had to run to the hardware store, which is conveniently also a gun store. While looking around, I spied a well used wingmaster for $179 and just had to bring it home. Standard configuration with a 28" vent rib fixed mod barrel with a good amount of worldly experience. This week has been hectic and I wasn't able to make it to the patterning board, but I did get to shoot my second and third round of trap tonight. The first round I shot two weeks ago I got a 10. Tonight I got a 16 and an 18 and had a good time.

After getting an 18 on my second round today, I was packing up my gear and had a big smile on my face. One of the league guys that was standing next to me asked why I was so happy with an 18. I told him that it was only my second time shooting trap, first time firing this shotgun, and first time shooting left handed. He shook my hand and said good job, come back and shoot some more next week.

I hope to break 20 next week.
 
Another book you might look for is called "Shotgunning the art and the Science" by Bob Brister. Mine was a birthday gift about 35 years ago but I still see it in gun shops. It covers about everything you need to know about shotgunning.

At Steve's recommendation I picked up a copy of this book and I can second his recommendation. It's out of print, but I was able to track down several old copies via Amazon.com last year.

I just looked on Amazon and it looks like someone is putting it back in print, but it won't be released until November 2008.
 
At Steve's recommendation I picked up a copy of this book and I can second his recommendation. It's out of print, but I was able to track down several old copies via Amazon.com last year.

I just looked on Amazon and it looks like someone is putting it back in print, but it won't be released until November 2008.

If anyone can't find a copy of Brister's Shotgunning: The Art & The Science I do have 52MB copy set in a .pdf format. Its holding me over until the new print edition comes out. The only bad thing is a couple pages are too blurry to read.
 
Congrats on the "New" WM. Your PETP dues are now paid up fhr the year. Glad switching to the south side is working for you.

Be safe, have fun and BA/UU/R.....
 
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