My Gen 3 Glock 22 is malfunctioning

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I have owned and shot Glocks for years, mainly the 9mm and .45 variants. All have been 100% reliable through many, many thousands of factory and reloaded rounds since right out of the box on day one. However, I bought a 3rd gen G22 a few months ago and it has been giving me problems. First time at the range with it I had one failure to feed with the round caught feeding in the chamber at an angle with the slide about 1/2 inch from being fully returned to battery. I shot another 100 or so rounds with no problems. However, today I had 4 or 5 of the same type malfunctions. The gun now has approximately 200-300 rounds through it.

I've been shooting the Georgia Arms "canned heat" 180g FMJ. After these malfunctions, I switched to some Federal Hi-Shok 180g JHP and experienced the same problem twice. When I shot the 155g Federal Hi-Shok JHP, I didn't have this problem.

Has anyone else had problems with the 180g Georgia Arms ammo in the G22? I want the G22 to be as reliable as all my other Glocks and I believe that the G22 should be as reliable as any other model. Should I contact Glock?
 
I keep hearing of spotty reliability with the GA ammo - lots of folks love it - but two in one recent match had issues. This is likely not your primary problem if other ammo has the same problem.

Two things I would try - see if one mag gives problems and others do not and change the recoil spring to a new factory spring.

Mag or mag springs may be your issue - have the mags been cleaned recently?
 
Gun was bought new about three months ago. I didn't clean the mags when I bought it nor have I for any of the other Glocks I own. This is a completely unmodified pistol with original recoil spring. Very few rounds put through it since new.
 
You shouldn't be getting that many failures. It sounds to me like something is out of spec on the gun. Perhaps there is not enough extractor tension or something else is not giving the bullet a good route into the chamber since it seems to have the problems only with the 180gr. ammo. I would consider calling Glock customer service and getting a shipping tag to send it in with a note detailing the problem.
 
Yes, that is the right thing to do: call GLOCK at Smyrna and discuss the problem with them. They always are very friendly and cooperative. A new handgun with only 300 rounds through it should not have so many FTF's.
 
Do you have a light or anything else mounted on the piece?

I have had nothing but good luck with Georgia Arms ammo over the years...and Glocks for that matter...including .40S&W in my G22's...
 
No light or anything mounted on the gun. I too have had good luck with the GA arms ammo in .40 and 9mm so I'm leery to say that the ammo is at fault. I ran about 500rnds of GA arms ammo through an M&P .40 with no problems. My other Glocks have fed and fired so much junk ammo without malfunction that I'm inclined to think it's the gun.
 
Have you tried a different magazine? A friend of mine has a Glock model 22 that was malfunctioning a while back and I helped him try to figure it out. After a while we tried a different magazine and it worked perfectly. On comparing the mags, one of the feed lips on his was slightly bent.
 
Depends.

If he has #6 or #7 followers I'd call and request the newest ones, or see if they offer to replace the whole magazines.

Some #6's gave my G27 some nose-up feeding failures my older ones didn't cause, and the replacement #8's (before the #9's were created) resolved my feeding problems. When I was discussing it with a tech he said that it was also possible the mag's I'd bought with the #6 followers might have metal liners which were just enough out of spec to allow nose-up feeding issues, and if that was case (meaning if the new followers didn't resolve it) they'd be willing to take my mags, examine and probably replace them. As it turned out, the feeding problems stopped when I installed the new followers.

On the other hand, since the .40 models develop a different recoil impulse than either the 9 or .45 models, and the gun/caliber appears to be so new to the shooter, it might very well be shooter-related because of the "new" caliber. Since the owner said his "problem" occurred when using 180gr loads, but not with the faster cycling 155gr loads, it would almost make me suspect there's some shooter involvement.

Can't really tell without being there to see the gun, ammo & the shooter using them, though.
 
First time at the range with it I had one failure to feed with the round caught feeding in the chamber at an angle with the slide about 1/2 inch from being fully returned to battery. However, today I had 4 or 5 of the same type malfunctions.
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I would try another magazine and see if I can duplicate the problem (you can ask to borrow the range rental Glock magazine). If the feeding problem goes away, your magazine/follower probably is the problem - call Glock for replacement magazines/parts.
 
That sure doesn't sound like a magazine problem. If the cartridge is in spec, yet it stops a bit shy of fully chambering, my money says it's because the rim is getting stuck on the extractor. At this stage of the cycle, that's the only thing providing friction to prevent the cartridge from completely lining up and chambering. A new gun has stiff extractor springs and mag springs; add a bit of noodle wrist, and the cartridge can hang up. The springs will soon break in, and your problem will disappear.
 
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For what it is worth, I have seen that problem a few times and fixed it with a simple detail strip and cleaning of the slide assembly with alcohol. I would say the ejector chamber and the firing pin safety plunger chamber are full of debris and carbon. You might want to give that a try.
 
I believe the OP said his gun was brand new, with only a few hundred rounds through it. The gun can't be that dirty. My friend's Gen3 G19 did this a few times when brand new, but this went away.

Test: Slowly hand cycle cartridges, while observing all the gun safety rules. On a brand new Glock, it is not uncommon for the slide to hang up 1/3 -1/2 inch OOB.

Once the extractor is broken in, this will go away. The slide will close to full battery, no matter how slowly you ride the slide back.
 
#6 followers on all three magazines. No way this thing is clogged with gunk/debris. Blue label (LE) purchase, NIB from Ed's Public Safety(high volume LE glock distributor in GA) in early November. Less than 300 rounds total through gun. Someone mentioned the failure could be shooter related, if that's the problem then I just need to throw all my guns in the river.
 
As I mentioned earlier, I successfully resolved my temporary feeding stoppages by replacing the #6 .40 followers with #8's (since they were the latest at that time). The #7 .40 followers didn't seem to be around all that long, either.

As far as it might also possibly include a bit of a shooter-influence component? Well, how much experience do you have in shooting plastic .40's? If the answer is little or none, then it's possible it could be involved to some degree. The recoil impulse and slide velocities are a bit different than 9's & .45's.
 
I took the pistol and left it with GLOCK in Smyrna today. They'll figure it out.
 
The GLOCK armorer said there was some peening on the slide that was causing the slide to fail to return fully to battery. Said it was repaired and I could come pick it up.
 
Okay....That would be some serious peening.:rolleyes:





By the way, I don't believe it.


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Oh Good Lord Crossr--a SIGMA???? LOLOLOL Why not just go Seecamp or Lorcin?

You need a come along to work the trigger on those darned things.
 
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