My new Colt Cobra just broke AGAIN!!!

[shoebox1.1]

I had mine out at range the other day to make sure it runs.. and it did. My buddy was shooting it and it did have 2 misfires with him.. I’m like “oh boy here we go again”. I think he short stroked it or something ( he’s not a gun guy) anyway it shot fine with me the rest of the visit, I get it home and the side plate screws were loose as heck! That’s like 200 rounds since it was at the mothership. Tightened the screws and it’s like new again. So check your side plate screws!

 

[Old Dog]

I think he short stroked it or something ( he’s not a gun guy) anyway it shot fine with me the rest of the visit,

Folks that've only ever fired S&W revolvers or semi-autos have a tendency to short-stroke a Colt revolver trigger, expecting the shorter reset.

 

[shoebox1.1]

He had been shooting my match champion which feels “normal” lol. The KC shot sooo good I’m thinking about a trigger job with heffron precision and a hogue hardwood grip for it! Fancy it up a lil’

 

[shoebox1.1]

Sorry to veer thread off course. I wish the OP only the best with his colt from here on out!! Great guns albeit with some niggles along the way

 

[shafter]

When revolvers go down, they go down hard.

 

[Mark_Mark]

He had been shooting my match champion which feels “normal” lol. The KC shot sooo good I’m thinking about a trigger job with heffron precision and a hogue hardwood grip for it! Fancy it up a lil’View attachment 1147808View attachment 1147809

nice pistol case! they still make those fur line cases?

 

[red rick]

I would send it down the road now while it is working .

 

[shoebox1.1]

nice pistol case! they still make those fur line cases?

It’s a vintage “black sheep” case made here in Dallas back in the 80’s I have two of em. Check the big auction site

 

[KarateHottie93]

I had mine out at range the other day to make sure it runs.. and it did. My buddy was shooting it and it did have 2 misfires with him.. I’m like “oh boy here we go again”. I think he short stroked it or something ( he’s not a gun guy) anyway it shot fine with me the rest of the visit, I get it home and the side plate screws were loose as heck! That’s like 200 rounds since it was at the mothership. Tightened the screws and it’s like new again. So check your side plate screws!

Yeah I was thinking about that last night. The side plate and crane screws backed out on me when I first got it, but it was from dry fire practice so I noticed before I ever shot it lol.

I would send it down the road now while it is working .

I've been thinking about this since sending it off. It's so sentimental but yeah, may just go that route. My 327 LCRX is a better carry gun in every way. My TRR8 is a much better home defense gun. I can shoot the Colt's double action more accurately than either of them but that's the issue. I don't know that I can ever trust the springs they use to get that perfect trigger pull again...at least not in their smaller guns. I could get over the mainspring and hammer breaking because they're big parts that can obviously be manufactured to higher quality. Having such a dinky little torsion spring entirely responsible for something major like resetting the trigger kinda worries me though. The trigger is a part that gets direct human contact. Now I'm afraid to let even a single person look at this gun cause the second they start playing around with the action and mishandling it even the slightest, I'm afraid they're gonna break it.

Obviously I don't want this on any revolver, but my past experiences have led me to believe that moderns Smith's, Ruger's, and even Taurus' are just much more tolerable of the occasional short stroke, and as someone else above pointed out, this is just so much easier to do on a Colt. It doesn't snap forward like a Smith.

 

[Riomouse911]

When my usual range finally opened after 5 weeks closed “for maintenance”, this thread caused me to grab the new Cobra and take it out again.

Man, this little gun does shoot nicely. Shooting 12 shots DA at 7 and 10 yards each, keeping shots where it counts on a B-27 is no problem with standard pressure and wadcutter loads. (I didn’t grab any higher-pressure loads.)

148 gr BNWC over 2.9 IMR Target were landing a bit high at 10, right on at 7. (I think I was aiming too high myself . )


150 gr Long nosed SWC over 4.2 gr AA#2 was right on the money at 7 and 10.


I hope this gun keeps running as well as it has been, reading about other new-Colt guns trials and tribulations makes me wonder if I’m next.

Stay safe.

 

[Old Dog]

I hope this gun keeps running as well as it has been, reading about other new-Colt guns trials and tribulations makes me wonder if I’m next.

Eh, I'm just shootin' the snot out of my Colts and not worrying. I don't feel as though I've seen any more indication of higher rates of problems with the new Colt revolvers than any other production handguns. Plus, Colt has been selling its revolvers so quickly that retailers can't keep them in stock, so there's a lot of 'em out there.

 

[shoebox1.1]

OP.. shoot the hell out of it as a RANGE gun.. after 500-600 rounds that all went BANG without issue… then maybe it will earn itself back into the fold

 

[KarateHottie93]

OP.. shoot the hell out of it as a RANGE gun.. after 500-600 rounds that all went BANG without issue… then maybe it will earn itself back into the fold

Yeah there’s that option. If the CS and RMA process has went up drastically since CZ got them (and it definitely has), maybe the quality of components has too. I can’t imagine CZ wouldn’t be hands on with them when they know it’s going to be part of their reputation now. My RAMI is the most reliable gun I’ve ever owned so I definitely trust CZ.

Also the side plate screws were both tight but the crane screw was still loose eh.

 

[Palladan44]

I'm a Colt fan. I love the richness of the brand.......but the history of the corporation is very, very UGLY. From family disagreement, to nepitism, to being bought by literally a dozen different investment corporations and conglomerates which have literally liquidated and bankrupted the company many times over again, any other company would have been out of business and forgotten about.....but not Colt, just because of the name....
All this aside, it's now owned by CZ......the best damn parent company Colt has EVER had.
Their products are high quality today, but of course as you know no product is perfect.....need to have good service to back up any product, and it sounds like they're being a little slow on this one.

All this aside, I'm still a sucker for anything with the rampant horse roll mark

 

[Boom Vang]

Colt just released their latest marketing video, "Making Modern Colt Revolvers"... it's a doozy.



You wish there was even one honest person in the "gun media" that would ask hard questions of these companies, instead of the rampant shilling that exists. I would start with, "Did you forget how to blue a revolver?"

 

[KarateHottie93]

Colt just released their latest marketing video, "Making Modern Colt Revolvers"... it's a doozy.



You wish there was even one honest person in the "gun media" that would ask hard questions of these companies, instead of the rampant shilling that exists. I would start with, "Did you forget how to blue a revolver?"

Yeah I figured they'd have brought back bluing by now. I know all the history about how tedious of a process Colt bluing was, and how long someone had to train on it before they could even touch a Python. With sales what they on already expensive guns, you'd have to imagine a lot of people would be willing to pay even more of a premium.

 

[UncleEd]

It's not about forgetting about how to blue a gun
the old fashioned way, it's about why bother in a
market where currently everything produced in
stainless steel is sold. And yet demand hasn't
been met yet.

Gun forum experts are not part of any reasonable
and profitable way of gauging consumer demand
and willingness to pay higher prices.

It's easy to pop off on the internet forums what a gun
company should do and not do. The internet forum
experts really have only opinions and no stake in
what it takes to produce a gun and make a profit.
Nor do they have any real understanding of modern
day production realities.

But bless all those internet forum experts who chose
to remain fixed in "the good old days" when in fact
not all specimens of a given model were
even near perfect.

For me, I am glad revolvers are still made and
decently so by Smith, Ruger and now, praise the
heavens, Colt.

 

[shoebox1.1]

Now I want a Python. Thx.

 

[reddog81]

There's more to blueing a gun than just running it through a few hot baths. From my understanding the key to a quality blueing job is the underlying polish. Back when the Python was originally introduced Colt had a entire workforce with decades of experience producing blued revolvers. How many employees does Colt have today with experience polishing all the various parts of a revolver?

 

[LoonWulf]

Colt just released their latest marketing video, "Making Modern Colt Revolvers"... it's a doozy.



You wish there was even one honest person in the "gun media" that would ask hard questions of these companies, instead of the rampant shilling that exists. I would start with, "Did you forget how to blue a revolver?"

you'd have to imagine a lot of people would be willing to pay even more of a premium.

How much of a premium would you be willing to pay? Every variation from the norm affects cost. Adding another material, or materials (I dont know how their current selection of internal parts would play with a carbon frame) would change the production process and then the finish work required would drive up that premium pretty significantly.

From my understanding the key to a quality blueing job is the underlying polish

Very true!
EVERY finish's quality is in the prep work. even something as simple as blasted stainless requires the correct media processing, and cleaning and masking of the part to produce the same finish every time.
A high polish blue is one of the more demanding finishes (I home "blue" stuff sometimes), and screw-ups are more noticeable.
You just want shiny? take a buffing wheel and go to town! then check all the edges that are supposed to be sharp, check all the spots that are supposed to be flat.
Premium bluing, like most things, dosent take a whole lot of secret "skills", it takes patience, a sure hand, and being willing to invest the energy into the product.

 

[KarateHottie93]

How much of a premium would you be willing to pay? Every variation from the norm affects cost. Adding another material, or materials (I dont know how their current selection of internal parts would play with a carbon frame) would change the production process and then the finish work required would drive up that premium pretty significantly.


Very true!
EVERY finish's quality is in the prep work. even something as simple as blasted stainless requires the correct media processing, and cleaning and masking of the part to produce the same finish every time.
A high polish blue is one of the more demanding finishes (I home "blue" stuff sometimes), and screw-ups are more noticeable.
You just want shiny? take a buffing wheel and go to town! then check all the edges that are supposed to be sharp, check all the spots that are supposed to be flat.
Premium bluing, like most things, dosent take a whole lot of secret "skills", it takes patience, a sure hand, and being willing to invest the energy into the product.

I have no doubts that if it was custom shop thing, several people would be willing to pay at least an extra $1500-$2000. Money is a very small factor in the grand scheme of things for many collectors.

People pay this much for old Python's. And I get there's a completely different appeal between new and old Python's. I'd imagine though that a lot of the people buying old Python would end up getting a new one instead of it was available in a blued finish.

Of course you're not getting the same legendary collectors piece, but you're getting a new gun that you don't have to worry about who the previous owner was or wonder what's been done to it. You're getting a gun with warranty support that you don't feel as bad about shooting or even just dry firing. The appeal is most certainly there.

 

[LoonWulf]

I have no doubts that if it was custom shop thing, several people would be willing to pay at least an extra $1500-$2000. Money is a very small factor in the grand scheme of things for many collectors.

People pay this much for old Python's. And I get there's a completely different appeal between new and old Python's. I'd imagine though that a lot of the people buying old Python would end up getting a new one instead of it was available in a blued finish.

Of course you're not getting the same legendary collectors piece, but you're getting a new gun that you don't have to worry about who the previous owner was or wonder what's been done to it. You're getting a gun with warranty support that you don't feel as bad about shooting or even just dry firing. The appeal is most certainly there.

Sure, but would there be enough draw to make it worth the tooling and labor cost? My point isnt WOULD someone buy them, its how many?
And that its not that they CANT make them, just that they have so far chosen not to.

3500-4500 for a custom shop gun might do pretty well, full action job, hand fitment, and high luster bluing.....heck id consider one if i could get a 5" ventless barrel......but they could sell a bunch of stainless 6" guns instead.....

 

[KarateHottie93]

Sure, but would there be enough draw to make it worth the tooling and labor cost? My point isnt WOULD someone buy them, its how many?
And that its not that they CANT make them, just that they have so far chosen not to.

3500-4500 for a custom shop gun might do pretty well, full action job, hand fitment, and high luster bluing.....heck id consider one if i could get a 5" ventless barrel......but they could sell a bunch of stainless 6" guns instead.....

Well yeah there's that. I don't know that it's worth the tooling and labor costs. I guess it depends on how long their revolvers are gonna be around for this time and if they see them making their money back sooner than later. Either way, I think they'll offer bluing again at some point.